MAINE a sign of things to come for rest of the USA.

And if those assumptions turn out to be bogus?

Ya know like always

 

So then help me out - which of my assumptions are wrong?

And if they are all wrong, how did your life become so dismal that you have no friends, family, siblings, or children that would help you?

 

When one ASSUMES they make an ASS out of U and ME.

 

Great discussion from you and Lesh, thanks.

Lesh asked what would happen to him if he became disabled. Lesh has always presented himself as intelligent and as a person who was in control of his life, so I stated that I assumed he and his would take care of him if he became disabled. Then I stated that if my assumptions were wrong, then he would most likely go on welfare programs.

Then, in order to intelligently answer his question, I asked him to describe his situation.

He has not responded in any intelligent manner, and your "old cliche" reply adds nothing to the topic of what should happen to Lesh if he becomes disabled.

 

I've been doing my part, for a while now.

 

More failed assumptions (and of course the obligatory right wing personal attack).

 

I'm beginning to see your problem. Reading.

I asked what would happen to my PARENTS were I to become disabled...

 

Well, you literally asked "What happens if I become disabled?" That was the entirety of your post. If you were inferring something about your parents, that was certainly not in what you wrote.

Poster opinion8d and I were talking about HIS mother. Then you posted "What happens if I become disabled?" How in the world do you expect anyone to think we were talking about YOUR parents if you didn't even mention YOUR parents?

But let me give you the leftist progressive answer to both of the above scenarios:

If you become disabled, you are entitled to a life of whiling away your days on the internet producing nothing of value for society while receiving massive amounts of free stuff taken from people who don't even know you.

If you and your parents become disabled, you are all entitled to a life of whiling away your days on the internet producing nothing of value for society while receiving massive amounts of free stuff taken from people who don't even know you.

Free stuff taken from others is awesome, right?

 

No failed assumption or attack. I assumed you had friends and family that would take care of you. You said I assumed incorrectly. That logically infers that you don't have friends and family that would take care of you. And that would be a dismal life.

No attack, just logic.

 

Why don't you right wingers exert the same level of hatred towards your elected politicians who are more than happy to live off you and earn very handsome pensions unavailable to average workers while doing so.

 

Ok. We get it. You have trouble following a conversation.

So...you say I am responsible for taking care of my aging parents.

Now pay close attention. What happens THEN if "I" become disabled. I have no other family. You expect my friends to take care of me AND my aging parents?

Can you follow along now?

 

Senior power!!

 

Another more likely possibility is that my reading comprehension is perfectly fine and your message was written in a manner that did not convey what you meant. In fact, that is exactly what happened. No need to get all upset and blame your lack of clarity on me.

So it seems you don't want to burden your friends with taking care of you and your parents.

In other words, it would be unfair to place that burden on your friends, correct? And you would never even consider that as an option, right?

The logical follow-up is that if you don't expect your friends to take care of you and your aging parents, why would you expect a total stranger to take care of you and your parents?

So friends should not be burdened, but total strangers owe you free stuff? Why are your friends exempt but I am obligated to take care of you?

 

Because I would think you don't want to be part of a society that lets millions of senior citizens starve to death or die because of benign neglect.

 

Bankruptcies are increasing rapidly among senior citizens due to soaring unaffordable medical costs as they are unable to pay the 20% costs remaining after Medicare pays 80% of hospital and related medical charges.

 

SO let's follow this logic here.

You expect my friends to care for both me if I become disabled as well as anyone dependent on me.

That sounds reasonable to you?

I wonder if those friends have family members that need care too huh?

Your "network" seems to have some flaws in it

 

Follow your logic to its conclusion.... you don't expect your friends to take care of you or your dependents because they may have dependents they are already taking care of. And this exempts them from taking care of you and your parents.

So, all these strangers that are supposed to be caring for you and your parents, those strangers may have their own dependents to take care of too. If your friends get that exemption, why wouldn't strangers get that exemption?

The conclusion to your logic is that no one should have to take care of your parents. If your friends are exempt, then everyone is exempt. If you don't expect your friends to take care of you, how can you expect complete strangers to take care of you?

Getting to the real point... lack of responsibility. Considering the hypothetical you and the hypothetical old parents (who by definition have lived a long life) Why didn't they secure their futures? Why didn't they save and grow much of what they earned? Why didn't they look out for their future? Why did they squander their resources? Why did they expect that others should take care of them? Why didn't you do the same?

The problem with taxpayer funded hand-outs is that it gives incentive to be irresponsible.

Why would anyone ever be frugal and save for the future when Daddy taxpayer is there to secure their futures? Live it up baby, no need to plan for the future! Spend it all, run up the credit card debt, Daddy T will be there to bail me out.

That isn't how it should be... personal responsibility should be absolutely demanded from everyone. I understand that you disagree with this.

Another example: With all these candidates claiming they will forgive college debt, why would anyone ever be responsible and pay it back? No, a person should hold out as long as they can, hoping the debt will be taken away = yay! Free stuff at the expense of the taxpayer. Has people's sense of what is right been so destroyed by progressive policies that they would actually feel good to take other people's money, money they didn't earn? (Duh, yes, that is exactly what progressive policies have done.)

Amazing that a portion of our society allows themselves to be absolutely intoxicated by politicians' promises of free stuff. How anyone can expect that someone else owes them a living is beyond me. How anyone can feel so smugly entitled to other people's stuff astounds me. Very sad.

 

Clearly the answer is a massive influx of uneducated, diseased third worlders.

 

Why is that how your ancestors were when they came to the good old USA????

 

An economic genius told us that mandating that everyone buy insurance will reduce it by $2500 / year. Of course, he was also a marketing genius ,,, telling us that his healthcare systems was so good he had to mandate that we buy it. His adviser later admitted that passing your health insurance plan through Congress depended heavily on the stupidity of American voters. He was referring to Democrat voters, since the rest of us rejected Fascist Healthcare out of hand.

 

Even so that does not call for a liberal, open borders, POT LUCK immigration policy where foreigners decide who will come here

If it turns out we need more uneducated shoeless people to empty and clean bed pans we should pick them instead of a gang banger human trafficker in mexico

 

wait a minute, I thought Trump made that secret deal with Mexico and solved our immigration problems - did Trump lie to us?

 

the Standard American Diet (SAD) does that, really misses with peoples hormones

 

most do today too, not only does it help the elderly, but the extra income of social security helps the family unit, it's works both ways

 

Some don't have family!!!