Majority of Young Adults Live w/ Parents as Economy Fails Them

No, it's... Practice social distancing. Wear a mask when in public. Wash your hands frequently.
Take care and stay safe. Bye.

 

Translation:
"One of these days I will be able to back my claims - but today is not that day."

 

"Social programs" are a luxury of capitalism, and are not the same thing as the Welfare State. Social programs provide opportunity, not free lunches. They're clean water, public education, decent roads, public libraries, healthcare, etc. None of those things will feed you, but they will provide the tools for you to feed yourself.

Add that to a citizenry with a strong work ethic and a strong sense of community responsibility predicated on a unified culture, and you have a nice civilisation. Japan is a good example. Singapore, Taiwan, and South Korea also. The Scandinavian countries had it for a short while late last century, but then compromised it by introduction huge numbers of people with a different work ethic and culture. They're somewhat doomed now, though Finland and Iceland will hold out longer.

 

Asian countries do not have what I am talking about.

The Nordic countries do have robust social programs, and your description of them as doomed is absurd. Compare them to us using any relevant metric.

 

On the contrary, those Asian countries have much-needed answers to some of the worst of Western social ills. Unfortunately there are a lot of Western people who still think only 'white' cultures worthy of their attention. I call them "Progressives". A group of people entirely lacking the ability to appreciate wisdom and value, when it comes packaged in ways that don't jibe with immensely privileged uber-whiteness.

FTR, I'm not American. I live in one of those Western nations you probably admire for being 'socially responsible' (universal healthcare, excellent welfare, etc etc), yet we're seeing exactly the same issues here as are happening in America. Increasing homelessness, decreasing educational outcomes, increasing obesity, increasing family breakdown, increasing wealth divide, increasing mental illness and suicide, etc.

 

Of course not. Much too challenging for you I'm guessing.

 

They had plenty of time to study STEM in high school on the taxpayers’ dime. Why should taxpayers be forced to pay for their same education again?

 

Because going from high school to college is not "again"...

Because we need more STEM graduates.

 

Killing social programs would only increase the things you complain about. China and Japan are facing quite different, but highly challenging demographic nightmares.

You are also ignoring the differences between young and mature economies.

In the improbable event you want to understand part of this, read Price of Inequality.

 

1) Social programs should not be killed, the Welfare State should. Indiscriminate free lunches disable a populace very quickly, and that's very ****ing sinister.

2) I'm not discussing economies, you are.

3) Thanks, but I'll pass. Unless it actually champions the only bonafide form of equality in a democracy - merit.

 

They didn't just max out "wealth for the elite". It also increased the standard of living for everybody. If you base it on dollars and cents, them rich folks are evil. If you base it on actual consumption, you will see the rising tide did lift most boats. It is a trade off. In the left-wing idealized economy, a $2000 PC in 1990 would cost you $10K today instead of the $1K it does.

 

1) Again, recent research is casting doubt on the Free Rider Problem.

2) You mean you think you are not. The arrow of time flies in one direction, you can't go back to a simpler time.

3) Actually, it does. But there's a reason Stiglitz is a nobel economist, and you are not.

 

1) Stop with your "recent research". Is it worldwide? Does it factor in culture? Does it look at the ever diminishing social and personal responsibility created by the Welfare State? If you answered no to any of those, you can bin it.

2) I'm suggesting individuals go forward to a cleverer time. That you need to think of it as backwards is not surprising, because you champion dependence. You need to demonise anything even slightly suggestive of impetus to work.

3) I could not possibly care less about economics. My interest starts and ends at the gates of my collective. I pay others to be bored senseless by macro sized bean counting.

 

How do you explain this...?



Have workers generally "failed themselves?"

 

Thank goodness some people care.

 

Have you noticed we have a pandemic and a recession? Your advice is fine for normal times.

 

My statement is applicable to here, today. If you read and comprehended my statement, it very clearly said that not 'everywhere' was in the recession.

My 'advice' is applicable to all times. You do whatever is necessary to earn money to support yourself. I don't care if you have an MBA, if you can't find a job in your MBA field, then flip burgers if that's what it takes to put food on the table. Some people are too damn proud to do it, and I sure don't want to pay to support them when they can't be bothered themselves.

 

What kind of jobs did they think they could get with bogus degrees in identity politics: Gender studies, African American studies, Latino studies, LGBT studies, etc?

They were failed by the Democrats who brainwashed them, guided them on their life path of perpetual failure and envy ,,, the same way Democrats failed Blacks.

 

There are some people temporarily out of work who shouldn't change careers. Barbers, school teachers, and audiologists come to mind.

Blaming yourself for losing your job is the part of your advice I think is wide of the mark. And we need people to dedicate to specialty careers.

I think we need to support people who chose specialties we'll need in the future while they adjust.

 

Please quote exactly where I said anyone should blame themselves. I didn't specify cause of job loss anywhere, did I. What I am highlighting is that one should not sit around waiting for a particular job to come back online, to find whatever work there is to put food on their table. We don't know if certain jobs will ever come back, or if people need to permanently adjust to the existing environment. Meanwhile, temporary adjustments jobs are available.

That's all well and good. You go ahead and support them, while I make necessary adjustments to support myself, aye?

 

You: "Education is all fine and good for some, but to lock one's self into a particular career and not willing to accept that life happens, is no one's fault but the person themselves." Message #21.

Every man for himself? I hope your kid doesn't need a special education teacher.

 

They are responsible for adjusting, not for the job loss. I don't see that as hard to understand from what I posted.

So a teacher, any teacher, who isn't teaching, should just sit around? Not do anything with their hands, their minds, other than teach??? Why are you so determined that people should be supported and others not? Why do you require other people's money to satisfy what you believe is the thing to do?

 

Trump says it was his shutdown, and he saved millions via the shutdown, you obviously disagree

Trump issued a national emergency and told the states to shut down

yes the states could have ignored him and some should have, but it was still the Trump guidelines the States followed for closing and reopening

 

bring the jobs back home and raise the min wage and welfare will be less needed

welfare is a symptom of not enough good paying jobs, we are supplementing cheap labor with welfare

 

Trump closed travel from overseas and only ordered Federal guide lines.