make America great like Norway

They are very real reasons. Your abject failure to recognize them and offer an effective rebuttal is proof enough that you really haven't thought this through. Comparing the US to Norway isn't apples and oranges it's basketballs and planets.

 

Just for starters... how does a small business owner, like myself just "give" 8 weeks paid vacation and 35 weeks paid parental leave per year? In other words, what is not said here is that aspiring small business owners in Norway must aspire elsewhere. Unions and Government control make that dream an impossibility.Free free free.
Norway is a small country compared to the U.S. with very little diversity of culture. Socialists always paint an imbalanced picture of things, taking for granted the freedoms our founders put in place. The only way a Nation like ours can keep liberty in place is to ask it's citizens to take personal responsibility for cradle to grave perks. Paid vacation is not even one of those. With individual liberty comes individual responsibility. Turn that responsibility over to government.......you dissolve that liberty as well.

 

I'm sure they would welcome you there. Do they have open borders like the U.S. where you can pack up your children, move there and enjoy there perks? Or do you have to wait in line to enjoy those things?

 

Norway's personal tax rate is 38% compared to the US's 37%, but more importantly, Norway's average disposable income is higher than the US's, which in turn is a big reason why the cost of living is higher. Like I said, more developed countries usually have a higher cost of living

Example

These are the 25 countries with the highest cost of living:

1 Bermuda
2 Switzerland (highest average disposable income in the world)
3 Iceland
4 Norway
5 Bahamas
6 Luxembourg
7 Denmark
8 Singapore
9 Japan
10 Israel
11 Ireland
12 Australia
13 France
14 Sweden
15 New Zealand
16 Belgium
17 South Korea
18 Netherlands
19 Finland
20 Austria
21 Italy
22 Hong Kong
23 United Kingdom
24 Germany
25 United States

and here are the 25 countries with the lowest cost of living

1st Pakistan
2nd Egypt
3rd Ukraine
4th India
5th Tunisia
6th Syria
7th Kosovo
8th Georgia
9th Azerbaijan
10th Bangladesh
11th Algeria
12th Venezuela
13th Nepal
114th Uganda
15th Moldova
16th Armenia
17th Mexico
18th Belarus
19th Kazakhstan
20th Sri Lanka
21st Iran
22nd Nigeria
23rd Macedonia
24th Colombia
25th Philippines

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2018


This should be obvious for everyone in this thread, but unfortunately it isn't

 

Since you, as most liberal elites, are immune from "American stupidity".......why don't you just pack up your "berkenstocks" and leave this Nation we so cherish?

 

Norway has an open border agreement with 25 different countries, the US has an open border agreement with 0 countries

 

Norway has a much better record than the US does in handling refugees and immigration.

 

If it and Sweden broke off and drifted south a few degrees of latitude, I would.

 

Is Nigeria, Libya, Yemen. India, Mexico, Pakistan, Uruguay or other racially divers countries on that list? Perhaps we could send a lot of our illegal immigrants there.

 

That's a pretty lame excuse. Can't you get free heat in Norway? I seem to be impressed the government has a pretty long "teat"! Venezuela has a much warmer climate. Perhaps you would not like the diversity of race there.

 

They do have a long Winter.

Also much of the country is isolated rural areas. Most of the population lives in the major cities, mostly in the capital city.

Also in case you haven't heard, the rape rate in the capital experienced a five fold increase over the last 20 years. Wonder why that is.

 

Actually, most of Norway's oil money goes into a sovereign wealth fund, which is now the largest in the world. It's assets amount to almost $200K for every single Norwiegan citizen. It was established in 1979 when Sea oil started flowing, and the country realized that it had to capture the new temporary wealth generated by a flood of money from a non renewable resource. They wanted the wealth to last after the oil ran out.

Contrast this to Alaska, which brought its first North Slope oil in around the same time. It chose to fritter most of its oil wealth away on tax cuts, most of which got squandered.

Today, Norway sits on the largest pile of oil generated cash in the world, and uses it to invest in energy and take care of its citizens. The fund is self sustaining now, oil or no.

By contrast, Alaska is still the biggest reciever state in the nation, and it is generally agreed that once the oil runs out, Alaska will be down there with Mississippi and West Virginia when it comes to poverty and lack of investment.

The talk radio and cable news crowd and the right wing noise machine have all been bleating about "socialism" lately.

Well, this represents the contrast between "socialism" in a country that decided to capture its oil wealth and make it into a long term asset that would last centures, and the "free market" approach, which will leave behind rusty pickup trucks and no future.

 

That's sort of the Geolibertarian argument (or fundamentally similar to it).
Tax natural wealth which was not created of human labor.

 

Not trying anything.

1. America can do what Norway is doing.

2. Such attempts with good success have been done here.

3. More attempts here will succeed.

4. All the complaining about it is and will be ineffective.

 

Sort of, but not really. America has a much larger population relative to its natural gas and oil wealth. The country also has a role and obligation to defend the rest of the world, which means much higher military budget.

U.S. crime rates are much higher than Norway, so that's more spending there.

I could go on and on.

Probably all in areas with mostly White populations.
And also coincidentally these areas all tend to be further north for some reason.

 

kazenatsu, you are spouting off with no connection at all to what American can do. Yes, really. American can do just about whatever it wants and still drag along the minority of the population that disagrees and make it support it also.

 

If you want to set up the U.S. to be on a path to being like Norway, set a balanced budget, start paying off the debt, and maybe someday the U.S. might have a sovereign wealth fund of its own rather than being in debt.

 

Can America make itself have a population of 5.258 million?

 

Notice how Progressivism only seems to work in areas that had a lot of money in the first place?

 

Of course it can. Population size has nothing to do with it.

A sovereign wealth fund gives the country that controls it considerable economic leverage, regardless of whether it's used to pay pensions or not. A soverign wealth fund puts countries into the banking and investment business with a focus on steady long term returns. Ask Norway or Saudi Arabia.

 

To have a sovereign wealth fund, you have to get out of debt first.

 

Norway is a great example of the "how do you create a small fortune" saying: First you start with a large fortune...

 

If we werent fitting the bill for the defense of Nato countries like Norway, we could pay for more domestic socialism too.

 

Like America

 

"Norway won't work here because...blacks etc".

Other things that work perfectly fine in other developed countries but somehow won't work in the US:
Gun control
Fair taxation
Universal medical coverage
Affordable tertiary education
Sound banking
Solvent government
Etc.

Minorities have nothing to do with the fact these programs, common in all other developed nations, don't work in the US. They don't work because the government is incompetent and people let them get away with it.