Man dies after being shot by Atlanta police at Wendy’s drive-thru

If that's "where we are"(I'm mocking Esper), I would gladly support them. But not only is the government not unjust or oppressive, their insurrection isn't against the government but their fellow citizens! Is Wendy's a government post?

It's clear that we citizens who are neither protesters nor looters are getting left to hold the bag while the kids seek and destroy!

 

The left is importing people from countries with higher violence and death rates. And four of the top fifty most dangerous cities in the world are in democrat cities. But if it’s purely deaths you’re concerned with and not a talking point, then why don’t you focus on black on black murders?

 

Are we told that? I know Bernie did not get caught up in that silly debate: he realised you can't simply open the borders, in our broken world…...

So back to the issue at hand: ie eliminate poverty in your own country...and there's your answer.

You are the one spouting excuses for NOT eliminating poverty, with YOUR silly diversions.

Forget about immigrants, illegal or otherwise....

 

This was a man who fought two cops, grabbed a weapon and fired it at them. Actions have consequences.

 

Thing that we don't realize is that violent confrontations like this one, is that it's an spontaneous situation. Once the man fired the taser, the cop responded by reaching for his weapon.(And a baton wouldn't make too much sense since it'd just bring them in closer proximity.) Theoretically, the dude could've waited for his partner to respond but let's think that through rationally: I'm in a situation where the suspect has a weapon, but I'll make myself an inactive agent while hoping my partner has my back.

Yeah...I don't see that happening.

 

Think bigger picture, Trump's entire handling of race relations has been like throwing gas on the fire

he was not fleeing in a car, he was running on foot, probably ready to pass out any moment as drunk as he was

I did not even want the drunk driver, Bush Jr, to be President (IE : driving this country)

 

Illegals don’t live in poverty, the left says they actually improve our economy and wat of life, why can’t blacks?

bTW, name a country with no poverty. The left absolutely loves Cuba, Venezuela, the Carribean, Africa and Muslim nations, so start with them.

 

Yes, but Katz, you need to look at eliminating unemployment with its associated demoralisation and subsequent crime...and blacks have 7 times the incarceration rates.

(And do you really want to share roads with drunks?)

 

I assume that was sarcasm...

That's a bit of a broad-brushed generalized argument though.
Like I explained, he wasn't really "on the road" at the time, and we could argue about whether finding him in that situation implies that he would be "on the road" in his current condition.
What I mean is the connection seems a little indirect.

 

agree, I think the first thing to do is end the war on drugs, as I think it has cause a lot of distrust in the police from a very young age

I think it also causes the police to have to do things they don't want to do, it's no fun being the "fun" police

getting caught for doing drugs is a bigger risk to ones life then the drugs themselves

Drugs also fund gangs, which make many of our youth attracted to gangs

 

Many people caught hard to establish those laws, madd, radd, pretty much everyone was on board.

I do agree that its overzealous but its pretty universal everywhere now, dont drink and drive period end of story and if you do definately do not fight and run, you turn a big problem into extended jail time. 100%

 

I understand that, but I have a tendency to analyze these sort of things (especially complicated situations) from a moral perspective... natural rights, and all that Lockean philosophy.

The sort of self-apparent ethics that would apply if you had 5 people wash ashore stranded on a deserted island.

In a society, we have all these "artificially" imposed constructs, so to speak. So certainly the morality/ethics of the situation is a lot more complicated.
And I believe that's part of what makes these sort of situations, when they have deadly outcomes, so contentious. Because there wasn't an obvious simple "right".

 

So back to the real question: why are blacks disproportionately living in poverty? Answer. Discrimination, ultimately based on their higher rates of poverty.

No country at present. But China has proved remarkably successful in reducing rates of poverty.

https://ellenbrown.com/2019/06/14/the-american-dream-is-alive-and-well-in-china/


"China’s central bank is directing credit into the local economy because it doesn’t trust the private financial market to allocate credit where local markets need it. True to its name, the People’s Bank of China seems actually to be a people’s bank, geared to serving the economy and the public rather than just the banks themselves".

 

that is what they did here in the old days, but I live in a small town... well was small growing up, is getting bigger

once the spacex statlink internet system is fully up, I may move out into the country - I miss the small town atmosphere

 

Is this sarcasm? I'm almost having trouble telling.

 

Prove your case of murder. There’s video showing otherwise.

 

I blame the ass who caused all this. Not the law, not the LEO and definitely not the now burnt down Wendy's.

 

I think they just enjoy absurdly hilarious hyperbole.

 

Yep, the good Lord discriminates against blacks to have a 75% rate of single motherhood. I suppose marriage, responsible fatherhood, stability and family values are racist and not allowed in the hood.

Here’s your and the rest of the always non fact finding left’s discrimination easily debunked.

 

Understand, but the dui laws are pretty clear and have been for a full generation now. Ba k in the 80s or earlier it was more chill. Madd changed that. Actually change was forced on us to become more strict.

Thisnis not about a dui however this is about what he did after.

 

Did it ever occur to you that the disparity might be due to the behavior of people being arrested?

American society is a significantly different one, in many ways, than the UK (even though there are also many close similarities in other ways).

I would wonder if a less merciful legal system and longer punishments might have something to do with these people fighting back. Just a theory.

I also know the UK is getting a lot more "diversity" these days, so it should be interesting to see if the in-custody death rate rises.

Lastly, I do think the US has a bigger drug problem, so that could be a very significant factor as well.

 

My goodness an intoxicated man falls asleep in his auto at a drive-thru. He resists arrest and gets away, so what?

They’ve got his auto meaning they’ve got his address. He may have been an idiot facing a laundry list of charges but he didn’t deserve a death sentence.

If he tased the officer and went for his gun than the second slow white dude would have had a reason to fire his weapon. That didn’t occur. This shooting wasn’t justified.

They entire incident was plain dumb.

 

Not necessarily. There was the possibility it was a stolen car, as far as the police knew.
(That is the type of way police typically think)

He was also running off with a police taser.

Police couldn't really go after him, in that situation, because he has a taser and could use it against them.

Do police just let him go and not go after him because they don't want to risk a physical confrontation?
That would pretty much make anyone who fights back and runs away immune from being arrested.

 

Are you out of your liberal mind?! You don't lift a finger against the police, let alone fire at them. If you do, you get shot. End of story.
Why is it so hard to comprehend?

 

Hypothetically, how would you feel if he stole the officer's gun and was running off with it?