Man facing charges after escaping quarantine hotel in New Zealand

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  1. sec

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    internment camps are ok with you???

    the charge against this man, for which he was forcefully incarcerated, is they claim that he has Covid. Please follow along with that.

    clearly he wasn't in need of medical care if he escaped from the incarceration. How can you defend the incarceration?
     
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    You are becoming hyperbolic and heading toward the deep end. Keep it up. The Chinese are likely enjoying they hysteria over their weaponized virus and are likely to release new ones that are much deadlier.
     
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    Obviously, the virus is not being managed. It continues to mutate and provide surprises around every corner. It will become more controlled after everyone has been infected. Then natural immunity will allow us to live with it as we live with all the other corona viruses. Yes some people will die. i could even be one of them. But I refuse to let the virus run my life. You can do so if you like.
     
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    Many countries have mandatory quarantines - just not all of them are interested in enforcing them. If you break a law, expect consequences if caught. You may not like the law, but breaking it is supporting lawlessness.
     
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    Camp? The guy was in a HOTEL, being able to play video games, watch a movie or get drunk, whatever.
    What's next... compare your random hotel with free wifi and roomservice with Auschwitz?
    I know you guys want to do that. Come on, be honest

    And so. It's a temporary thing.

    Are you aware covid is contagious and it can cause other people in desperate need of medical care?
     
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    Uh... You know it is being managed.... because people like you whine all over the internet about the need of wearing masks, and lockdowns benig put in place to stop people from spreading the virus for mingling around for no reason. How could you have missed this? lol
     
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    read the article about the hotel being "secured"

    and, why is he treated like a criminal and now facing up to 6 more months of imprisonment?

    Was he allowed to get his own Covid test and results? He's accused of having a virus that does not have a high mortality rate, yet he gets locked up.

    Sadly, you appear OK with that? I'm going out on a limb here and assuming that you vote Democrat
     
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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ee-hotel-quarantine-three-times-officials-say

    Rather secure. He failed to escape the hotel 3 times in a row. Do note.. it's a hotel, not a prison.

    The man has been charged with failing to comply with the Covid-19 health order.
    So you know. You're not going to have a good time when caught breaking the law.

    Go use google yourself if you care so much.

    It's not just about the mortality rate. It's also about the rate of the people who need medical care and survive.
    They can only survive when getting medical care, and that medical care is utterly limited.

    Since it's just temporary, of course I'm okay that some gimp. Heck, his own parents blew the whistle on him.
     
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    Were you under the impression that you can protect yourself from Covid? Heres the first clue. Everybody on the planet will eventually have it. Just like the flu.
    There is no cure for a virus and it isn't going away. The best we can hope for is herd immunity and we already know those who have had the virus have better immunity than the vaccine.
    And the virus spread for a year before there was a vaccine.
    People who get the vaccine can still get Covid just like people with a flu shot.
     
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    The % of people being immune thanks to the vaccine is sky high vs the original covid string. It's less effective against the new versions.
    And most of all, people who took the vaccine almost never end up in the hospital.

    That 1% death is still a massive amount of people dying, and includes the idea all sick people will get the care needed.
    The idea that you seem to imply to just let it all happen, will end up overflowing the hospitals with patients.
    Overflow as in, not enough staff and equipment to help the patients = much higher % of deaths.

    And overflow, as in also not enough staff and equipment for cancer treatment, gun shot wounds, car accidents etc.
    So non covid related deaths will also sky rocket.
     
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    And the problem is…….?
    Mate have you ever read the real story of Typhoid Mary?

    When it comes to quarantine the Government - in all corners of the world - has ALWAYS had absolute power.

    so one guy who was acting like a twit ends in jail - upside - how many Covid deaths has NZ had?
     
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    upload_2021-9-9_20-46-11.jpeg

    Just because YOUR country cannot or will not contain it does not mean it cannot be contained

    vaccines are effective in containing this
     

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    These vaccines can only minimize the effects given best case scenario. That is far from containing the virus.
    If everyone on the planet got vaccinated on the same day, that doesn't get rid of it and vaccinated are getting Covid at the same rate.
    There is nothing out there that will get rid of a virus. Its here to stay.
     
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    the man was accused of having a virus that has a low mortality rate. He was then imprisoned. He was not able to have his own test run nor given a fair trial, he was simply placed into confinement, away from his home and his crime, he is ACCUSED of having a virus.

    Are you not understanding?
     
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    Which has nothing to do with my statement
    Everybody on the planet will eventually have it. Just like the flu. There is no cure for a virus and it isn't going away. The best we can hope for is herd immunity

    Which has nothing to do with my statement
    Everybody on the planet will eventually have it. Just like the flu. There is no cure for a virus and it isn't going away. The best we can hope for is herd immunity

    Which has nothing to do with my statement
    Everybody on the planet will eventually have it. Just like the flu. There is no cure for a virus and it isn't going away. The best we can hope for is herd immunity
     
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    They are but at a much much much lower rate
     
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    I would agree that they are a much lower rate than unvaccinated who never had the virus. But their is good news for everyone who already had the virus without the vaccine.
    Actually, they have already found that vaccinated individuals who have never had the virus are over 20 times higher of getting Covid than unvaccinated individuals who already have the virus and vaccinated are hospitalized 8 times higher than unvaccinated who have had the virus.
    Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine—but vaccination remains vital
    https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital
     
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    People get cured for the virus. Trump received REGN-COV2. At the time, it required a special permission to use at the high dose Trump needed to pull through. And there even is a method to have a massive chance to not get that virus in the first place. It's called "getting that vaccine".

    The "herd immunity" can be easily achieved through getting that vaccine.
     
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    People with the vaccine still get Covid. You know that, right?
     
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    you're not telling me anything new. While I think you might think all people who are vaccinated can ALL still get covid, which is not true.

    https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work...covid-19-vaccine-effectiveness-and-protection

    The Pfizer vaccine (Comirnaty) is effective at reducing the number of people who get COVID-19.

    It’s harder to find out how well the vaccine stops people passing on (transmitting) the COVID-19 virus. Recent studies show that the Pfizer vaccine can reduce transmission of the virus. These studies looked at the number of people infected with COVID-19 after they’d been vaccinated and their close contacts.
     
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    Make up your mind. First you claimed people get cured for the virus, its called getting the vaccine.
    Then you claim the vaccine is effective at reducing the number of people who get Covid.

    When you claimed people get cured for the virus,
    My answer was, People with the vaccine still get Covid. You know that, right?

    And you thought that meant everyone who gets the shot gets Covid?
    Ooookkkkaaaayyyy
     
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    You're quoting me saying a cure is "REGN-COV2". That's not a vaccine.

    I even soured that.

    I just sourced that with the vaccine you can become immune, while some still can get Covid. So we can end this horseplay.
     
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    You are dead wrong, pardon the pun.
    Death toll from Covid is about four and a half million.
    Many survivors will have long term health consequences.
     
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    yes, people have died from complications of covid

    many more have contracted it and were asymptomatic and others mild symptoms. It's not a death sentence. It's an engineered virus that is going to do what it's going to do. Despite tyranny in NZ and Australia, the case numbers are rising. The people need to wake up and remove the tyrants and replace with sane politicians
     
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    Re Covid
    I live in Sth Australia. We have had two deaths.
    Think we have one case per 330 people, as
    compared to USA 1 case per 8 people. The
    lockdown has helped saved many lives.
    And we have about 230 gun deaths per year.

    If this virus was 'engineered' to kill people then
    why allow it to spread?
     
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