Manchin will support Democrats' reconciliation bill, allowing relief to move forward without GOP

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  1. aenigma

    aenigma Well-Known Member

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    so 1.1 american dollar for australia 1/4 gallon
    its arround 1.5 dollar in belgium
     
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    Manchin would like to think he's the new king maker in the Senate, should be entertaining watching Chuck the Schmuck slap him back in his place every now and then.
     
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    When Trump was president, the democrats opposed his stuff with almost complete unity. The parties are just too far apart.
     
  5. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Very true, Democrats have moved slightly left while the right has... well:
    upload_2021-2-5_17-16-34.jpeg
     
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    I would rate the democrat party of the USA as by far the most right wing party of all those named. By far. They want to destroy all political speech they disagree with. They want a complete monopoly on the media. They support oligarchy and corporatism. They believe in political change through violence we saw that all this summer.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol

    Have you ever traveled outside of Alabama? The US?
    If not, I would recommend you try it

    The right wing in this nation would be laughed out of the room in most other first world nations.

    Did you not understand the image?
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    I live in Tennessee. Was born and raised in Rockford Ill. My wife is from the Philippines and I have been there 5 times and as a result of that travel have been in Japan and Hong Kong. Also been to Mexico and Canada.

    I'm not right wing at all. I'm closer to a real liberal than any of you democrats. You are far right wing and you have a far right wing neocon president.
     
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    By the way convince me that any description of the democrat party was inaccurate. You DO want to destroy free speech. Your impeachment of Trump is an example.

    Stacy Abrams can lie that an election was stolen from her and she gets nominated for a Nobel prize. Trump claims this election was stolen and he is a traitor.

    If you libs had your way you would eliminate Foxnews and talk radio and any media and opinion you do not agree with. Libs are trying to destroy Parlor.

    The democrat party is supported by the richest people in the history of earth who use their wealth and power to destroy civil liberties and help the democrats get elected. That is corporatism! That is oligarchy!
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you state some of the major right wing policy items of Democrats compared with what your policy position is?
     
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    I just did.

    They are trying to destroy civil liberties in this country. The entire bill of rights. They want a monopoly on the media that only serves them and they are run by and supported by about 100 of the richest people to ever live on this earth.

    That is right wing! Biden is a Neocon who never met a war he did not like and support.

    Democrats support a government oversight board that will clamp down and destroy anything they think is misinformation. In other words anything they might not agree with or might not be good for them. So Russia collusion lies are fine but don't you dare talk about Hunter!

    Or just call anything you disagree with hate speech or racism and ban it and ban the person from speaking.

    Democrats tried to use Covid to stop people from attending church which is a right guaranteed by the first amendment.
     
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    Is there anything this organization does that Hitler or some grand wizard of the klan would object to?

    https://mariestopes-us.org/2017/west-africa/

    Their number one objective is to limit the number of black babies born in Africa. Why are our tax dollars being used for ethnic cleansing?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not really, you made a few baseless accusations that could be applied to both parties and did not indicate what your liberal position would be.

    Why do you believe they want a monopoly on the media? You are aware that the largest news network and larger broadcast organization are both right wing, yes?

    And both parties are supported by very wealthy individuals. This was only exacerbated by the Republican Citizens United case.

    I agree we need to get money out of politics but one party is a major stumbling block in doing that while the other just plays by the same rules.

    That is a policy position from a fairly moderate Democrat and isn’t supported by the Democratic Party in general.

    Russian interference was proven to be factual and “Hunter” was a developed, planted and purposeful attempt at election interference. Notice how it just vanished?

    Oh, you are mad that news organizations identified it as fake news and refused to run it?

    Examples were people have been banned from speaking on public grounds?

    I absolutely agree here, we should have left the churches open and placed no restrictions on them. In addition to that anyone that caught the virus from one of these super spreader events should be told to have their god take care of them as there is a clear separation of church and state, so the taxpayer shouldn’t be responsible for their cult worship.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your own source says why, the region cannot support the increase in population density. Families in these areas are use to a very high infant mortality rate (I wonder why your god aborted all those “babies”?!?!). To combat this they had multiple children. Birth control is also non-existent in these areas. Since modern medicine has lowered this rate the population increase has kept families in poverty and is putting strain on local resources.

    From your article:
    Significant population growth appears to be the strongest force driving the region's potentially turbulent future. With annual demographic growth rates ranging from 2.5 percent to nearly 4 percent, the population will continue to grow beyond the region's capacity. This growth has occurred because of commendable rapid decreases in infant and child mortality but lagging decreases in fertility.

    With an average of about 4 to 7 children per woman, the region's population might increase from almost 135 million today to 330 million by 2050 and close to 670 million in 2100.
     
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    Did you ever watch the damn video? They were talking about a baby alive outside of the womb!

    A third trimester fetus is a living human being.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again, no babies were killed — he was speaking if a late term abortion failed and the resuscitation attempts that would be made if the mother decided to do so.

    And no — a third trimester fetus is still not a baby. A baby has been born, while it is in utero it is a fetus. I don’t even agree with the on demand late term abortion that conservatives are so upset about — let’s be real, they are concerned with anything after fertilization, sexual education, everything before fertilization including pregnancy prevention and sexual activity (so basically everything) — but it is very very rare that a woman would carry a fetus for 7+ months and then go “ya know, I don’t think I want this anymore”

    “Did you even watch the damn video?”
     
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    My real liberal views vs the democrat party.

    1. I am a civil libertarian. I believe in the absolute right of thought, opinion, speech and association. Even if you have views that I find repugnant. I believe in the free market place of ideas.

    2. I am anti war. I am against America's role as world policemen. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have been miserable failures.

    3. I'm against Oligarchy and corporatism at the expense of American workers. The richest people on earth are almost universally in support of democrats.
    They were talking about a baby alive outside of the womb. If the baby was already dead there would be nothing to talk about. He was not talking about keeping a dead baby "comfortable".

    You might read the court's opinion in Roe vs Wade. They determined that the state has a compelling interest in the life of the baby in the third trimester because a baby that advanced can live outside of the womb and many have. Given there are millions of Americans walking around who were born premature I would not say they were not born human.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good for you, I once did but I have come to realize that many are incapable of separation of fact vs fiction and it is now getting people killed.

    Same

    Koch brothers, Adelson, Stevens, Palmer all come to mind.
    Four of the top 10 highest donors exclusively funded Republican campaigns.
    11 out of the top 25 highest donors exclusively funded Republican campaigns with another favoring Republicans but did donate to some Democrats.

    The highest donor gave almost as much as the second and third did combined and more than everyone in positions 3-10 combined.

    I don’t know where your definition of universally comes from, but it isn’t the English language.

    What words did he say after the word “comfortable”?

    That still doesn’t make a fetus a baby. It is a baby after birth.

    I 100% completely agree that once a fetus can survive outside of the womb on it’s on there should be immediate protections in place.
     
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    Simple if they do not get Manchin the Senate vote is not tied therefore it renders Harris moot and mute.
     
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    Well said, very true and will send Trumpeezians into an uncontrolled spin.
     
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    Thete are so few real Republicans or real conservatives left in Congress that it is a shame to blame Republicans for what the Trumpeezians are doing.
     
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    Your characterization of the "shut downs" as "Stalinistic" is nonsense. They're undertaken to avoid overrunning the healthcare system with coronavirus patients. Voters don't want to force doctors to triage patients, leaving some to die. As well, they don't want so much virus circulating that a significant percentage of people avoid stores, restaurants, travel, and spending money.
    Relevance?
    Propaganda. Democrats wanted to run a deficit large enough better support the economy.
    Generally true, but not either party's fault.
     
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    QFT (Quoted for Truth)
     

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