Marine Le Pen to stand trial for hate speech

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  1. Heinrich

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    The leader of France's right-wing National Front party is to stand trial next month on charges of inciting racial hatred. During an election campaign in 2010, Marine Le Pen compared Muslim street prayers to the Nazi occupation. Specifically the conservative French racist will face charges of "incitement to discrimination over people's religious beliefs."
    http://www.dw.com/en/frances-far-right-leader-marine-le-pen-to-stand-trial-for-anti-muslim-comments/a-18730794
    Typical of those who hate Muslims, Le Pen also despises the European Union. Her type have always gathered support among a section of citizens so the fight for liberty, fraternity, and equality is a never-ending battle.

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    That's very disturbing. A politician shouldn't be charged for raising issues.
     
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    Le Pen did not raise any issue so much as incite hatred of people because of their religion. What disturbs me more is that anyone could miss this point.
     
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    It's a garbage religion. It should be outlawed, today.
     
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    You have just qualified as the first person to go on my "Ignore List".
     
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    Huzzah! :woot:
     
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    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/20/us-france-lepen-poll-idUSKCN0RK0HL20150920

    They might dare to lock up Le Pen but her party is gaining influence with no end in sight. The ongoing migrant situation will probably result in far right parties controlling all of Europe's rural and suburban governments within a decade or two.
     
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    Europe is well acquainted with the extreme right. The foundation of the European Union is a rejection of nationalism. But each generation has to be educated into the evils of bigotry, xenophobia, and racism. Otherwise, history can repeat itself.
     
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    The legal action would be a huge blow to Marine Le Pen as she bids to become President in 2017 and a criminal conviction would be a disqualifying factor in any state elections. But Le Pen's party would secure 36 to 37% of the vote in Nord-Pas-de-Calais, which has one of the highest unemployment rates in France: 13% compared with 10% nationwide. The FN's popularity may be closely linked to high unemployment rates in some regions in France, where voters are buying her argument that migrants are taking jobs from French workers and driving down wages.
     
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    In the past the elites would ban political competition outright. Now they let them participate to a limited extent, but as soon as the competition reaches double digits in polls, they ban them and throw their leadership in jail. If the elites were so offended by what Le Pen said back in 2010, why did they wait 5 years to file the charges and only when FN is climbing in polls? Democracy is dead in France. Voters are told to decide by persuasion or force. The elites need a certain comfort zone, and if that starts to narrow too much, then immediately all the rules are swept under the rug.
     
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    The article explained, "Le Pen was charged in 2014 after her immunity as a Member of European Parliament was lifted."
     
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    That doesn't mean they waited. They've dug it up.

    He's noticed the pattern that the elite are doing this. Why do you want to prevent him from spreading this important information. Many of us are looking for answers to why our elite is so viciously against us and how they are bringing about our demise. We want to know why we won a world war and yet have been acting like conquered states ever since:confusion:

    I found his post useful.
     
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    Ok, there is another matter of timing, since you're so smart. The French authorities have been unable to cope with Muslim riots in the past few weeks, so they had to speed up the process against Le Pen to find scapegoat and offer sacrificial lamb in hope of restoring order.
     
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    Moreover, I don't know if one could compare Pied Noirs to Nazis and the French army in the 50s and early 60s to Wermacht?
     
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    Ah ok . :)

    I don't think it discounts the reason of too much popularity as well.
     
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    well, she is a hater.
     
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    Punish free speech by making a criminal out of someone for expressing their opinions. That will keep the comptetion out of office. Sorry for using the term "Free Speech". This will probably be censored in Europe. Again, Sorry.
     
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    Using speech to incite racial hatred is against the law in France.
     
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    If you don't like the message of the opposition, make it illegal for them to spread their message.

    How can a democracy function under these conditions?

    "Inciting racial hatred" is a very vague concept and could potentially be applied to all sorts of different things. That would be like if they passed a law making it illegal to act in any way detrimental to the French State, if I can draw such an analogy. Then a judge could have any politician or public official arrested on a whim.
     
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    She said that Muslims would occupy French territory "in 10 or 15 places, where the Mosques are so overcrowded that people go praying on the streets" and that would be similar "like what the Germans did many years before". Actually she was upset for being late on a party rallye and her access to the site was blocked by praying muslims from an overcrowded mosque. Unnecessary to say that blocking of street traffic even for praying is an offense against French traffic regulations (the first ticket for wearing a full body burka, which is not permitted in France, was delivered by a Muslim female traffic warden to another Muslim female Mercedes driver attempting to drive backwards with a burka, having only two small holes and those in front for not so perfect driver's sight. She received a ticket for "unsecure driving". When the woman did not pay the ticket, French Police came to her home only to find out that she was living at her home with 3 different husbands and 6 children, receiving astronomical social support payments for "single mothers", one seperate payment for each single one of the kids)

    What kind of "hate" allegedly is incited by that remark? Hate against Muslims or Germans? Against praying on the streets or mosques being overcrowded?

    The whole affair is a typical French style "Dreyfuss" show. 100% staged, all set up. It will bring her voters instead of losing one only.
     
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    Spoken like a true left-wing totalitarian. Anyone who has a philosophy different from yours 'has to be re-educated'; and accusing one of bigotry, xenophobia, and racism gives you (you think) the moral right to do just this. Our children are, right now, being indoctrinated into your version of how the world should be. V.I. Lenin once said, 'Give me one generation of youth, and I will transform the world". You and yours have had two generations of our youth, and the world is a (*)(*)(*)(*) hole. I'm sure with just a little more tweaking, more propaganda, more youth, ande more demonizing, the 'world will be transformed.'

    As far as Europe being familiar with extreme right groups: Europe should be familiar with the extreme left too. Lenin, Stalin and their ilk were the original kings of the left, the original communists. Everyone should know how that all turned out. If that history were told, there would be a whole lot more "extreme right" wingers. Policies of these extreme left-wingers were responsible for the deaths of up to 60 million people, and not all of these deaths can be blamed on Stalin. The Russian Revolution claimed 9 million lives.

    http://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm#Stalin

    Lenin epitomized xenophobia and bigotry. The 'king' of the left was Jewish, and once said that 'only people of Jewish parentage were intelligent'. He burned down thousands of churches, and executed thousands of Russian priests; all the while leaving untouched the mosques and synagogues--pretty good example of bigotry, xenophobia and racism.

    Lenin, the regicide terrorist, once said that 'the goal of socialism was communism'. Communism is the means by which everyone who is not a member of the leftist elite gets their wealth redistributed. Lenin's family was a quasi member of the elite in Russia. His family owned a large farm and had farm workers who were not paid--slaves. During and after the revolution, the Ulyanov family still held their farm in possession, including the unpaid farm workers. They were one of the few left with their possessions, even though wealth redistribution was good enough for everyone else.

    I suggest that everyone has a right to his opinion, and has the right to act on those opinions, and if that includes voting for a nationalist, as opposed to voting for a communist globalist, so be it. It will be the communist globalist who will once again commit murderous atrocities in the names of egalitarianism, and social justice. It was all a lie back in Lenin's day, and it is a lie now. Hopefully history won't repeat itself, but it looks like we are heading in that direction--especially when people face legal charges for voicing different opinions from the extreme left.
     
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    True. There is that.
     
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    The European Union recently has published guidelines for member states to enforce tolerance within their populations. "Tolerance commitees" have to watch all communications for homophobic, xenophobic, anti feminist or anti semitic content. Such communications if made in public must be punished as "special crimes", comparable to "aggravated insult". Juvenile offenders must be "re educated" in special "tolerance camps". That pamphlet is the work of Swedish and Austrian radical feminists, having the majority in the "European Council of Tolerance and Reconciliation".
    Unnecessary to say that the "European Council", which is the government of Europe, is not elected by anyone. Their members, called "commissioners" are appointed by the Council President who is elected by the leaders of the governments of the member states. European citizens can vote the "European Parliament" and its President. The council however neither is obliged to follow the Parliament's "recommendations" nor to report to the Parliament at all. The "terminus technicus" is "Democracy Deficit of the European Union", which is known to everyone in Europe and explains voter participation of less than 10% in some countries during European elections. At least they have found a better word for "totalitarism".

    http://www.pravda-tv.com/2013/10/eu-plan-umerziehungslager-fur-andersdenkende/
     
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    The racist Marine Le Pen is being prosecuted under French law.
     
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    its a very stupid and bad law

    unless they call for violence upon a specific person or community, all speech should be legal.
     

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