Mark Cuban: We'll see fewer mass shootings by 'taking care of income inequality'

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    Is this really the reason for mass shootings? I thought it was just hate crimes.Is his solution the right answer?

     
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    I think their lacking jobs and skills is a large part of it but I think the answer is giving these people skills and investing in jobs for there communities rather than just giving them money. The ole give a man a fish quote
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good, seize all his assets, liquidate them and distribute the among the population.
     
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    I have to disagree. Most of them have jobs hell some of them have been rich others have been kids. I think the majority are just mentally ill ashats looking for their 15 minutes of fame. A small percentage of them are politically motivated, but most aren't
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Equalizing incomes is not a function of the federal government. It doesn't appear in the Constitution.
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, and for that matter even though I probably would like a bit more gun control, i doubt that would have much impact either.

    It is some sort of human sickness. It is just modern technology enables us to be more efficient about lots of things... including killing each other
     
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    Perhaps the problem is a completely unrealistic expectation.

    I don't know if the reason is somebody living in their mom's basement, and then realizing that there are people out there who have done pretty damn well for themselves. I remember being 20ish and seeing neighborhoods with million dollar homes, and I certainly didn't expect to be able to walk into a realtor's office and put a down payment on one.

    Are these millenials angry that their useless degrees aren't enough to move them into the Clampett mansion?
     
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    Cuban made a silly statement in my opinion. To go out and shoot people you have to have a sick mind. And what is Cuban doing to equalize income? Zero. Squat. Nothing. Well he wants to sound compassionate now that he has his. But I guarantee you he wants to hold on to all he has. What next Mr. Cuban -- equal housing, equal attire, equal food, equal vehicles, equal looks. Excuse me as I gag. How are supposedly intelligent people so dumb in solving a problem? Is it a problem? You could even look at the number of people killed by vehicles and deduce the shootings aren't a large problem.
     
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    A UBI would decrease shootings and increase births not abortions.
     
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    yeah well, that ain't gonna happen so time to get back to reality.
     
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    Yeah, something of the sort will happen in the next twenty years.
     
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    How would it decrease shootings?
     
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    more lefty predictions?

    If you guys were capable of predicting anything, you would have done so by now. So far, it's zilch, zilch, and zilch on the ol' lefty prediction front.
     
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    He is right. Though only partially. He doesn't quite go far enough in analyzing the root cause. There are two factors which would dramatically decrease ALL crime...not just mass shootings. And we don't need to address guns or even the 2nd Amendment to address it. (though I do like his idea on the 2nd Amendment...to an extent...don't agree about the States part). Those two factors are education and mental health access.

    Its a proven fact that the more education that someone has the less likely they are to commit a violent crime. Might commit blue collar crimes like fraud or such...but violent crime is far less likely. Why? Because the more educated someone is the more successful in life they are. the more successful in life they are the more money they have. The more money they have the more stuff they have. The more stuff they have the less likely they are to want to do something that will remove it all. We need to reform our education system. And no...that doesn't mean throw money at the problem or come up with a half baked "solution" like "common core" (biggest POS of a system out there according to every teacher I have ever talked with on the subject). I have a suggestion on that but I won't get into it in this post.

    As for mental health access....This needs to be a multi-tiered system. One that starts in education. Teach kids how to recognize signs of depression and other mental illnesses. We also need to make it easier to commit people that actually need it...done through the court system. The Red Flag laws have the basic idea of what's needed...they just do it the wrong way imo.
     
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    No, it wouldn't. Andrew Yangs idea of 1k per month would probably be the best that the government could do without seizing total control of all forms of wealth income. And mind you, I support Yang to be POTUS. If he gets the Primary win I will vote for him against Trump. But I in no way support a total UBI.
     
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    Yes, of course, it would.

    At a National Robotic Labor Tax would make the UBI possible for a decent existence.
     
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    Never forget the 572,000 people in USA who died by guns in 1999-2016. Mass shootings are a tip of a huge iceberg. Each year over a hundred thousand people die from lack of medical care in USA.
     
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    It's possible but your theory of them being mentally ill sorta overlaps with mine that they are lacking skills no?

    My main point being I'm good with people wanting to try to help but th gov taking from one group and giving to another isn't a long term strategy imo
     
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    Actually governments have done that for thousands of years.

    The GOP is doing that now.
     
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    In USA there are millions of people who need help. My parents help me.

    Those who have no help are dying by hundreds of thousands.
     
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    All Governments impose taxes.

    In USA, millions of people are abandoned by Society and hundreds of thousands of them are dying.
     
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    That's kinda weird to support Yang but being against his Hallmark issue UBI..

    I am against it as well though because I think all that will do is put the extra thousand dollars in some elses pocket not the poor person who needs it. I think it'll cause inflation and the whole Alaska did it so all of US can too is a Shakey comparison at best. Alaska's wealth dividend is from new revenue and also the price for goods in Alaska is much higher and I'd say some of the reason is because of said dividend.
     
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    Yes and when the government money stops where will those people be? They'll have no skills still and in lots of cases poor environments still. If you wanted to address it was invest in the communities that need it most
     
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    I am grateful to my parents and I am grateful to my grandmother (RIP).

    I am proud of my great-grandparents. In 1919, they were younger then I am now! They were building a Society in which the property of millionaires was redistributed to help people in need. At that time all the World was much less affluent then now, and Russia was very poor. Most workers obtained a room per family. Former rich people were treated as former felons until 1936.

    Unfortunately, in 1930s, Jews were removed from their positions. At the same time Soviet Society became Totalitarian.
     
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    At least they can be given food, shelter, and medical care.
     
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