1. No one said there's just one gene. It may be many sequences. 2. 5% (of 75%) for one study is pretty darn good. I remember 5 years ago they had only found one gene, and it accounted for <1% (I recall?). It was a head size gene. There might even be a few of them alone. Head size/Cranial volume is I think going to be one of the key ones. +
They're just not feeling superior these days, could it possibly be because they're not. Exhibit A) Donald J Trump
Of course schools and teachers have little impact on academic outcomes. And neither do genetics, incidentally. CULTURE (ie, parents attitude to education) is the decider of academic success. Even the worst schools still have a dux (valedictorian .. or whatever Americans call the kid with the highest mark at the end of high school). So if SOME kids can excel at the same school where many don't, we know it has little to do with the school itself. Furthermore, if you ask any specialist teacher of academically gifted children what the common factor is (to all their students), 99.9% of them will tell you it's 'parents who care about education'.
Of course 1. That isn't true. You merely Deny the OP STUDY with your own Empty opinion. It's Genetic. 2. The IQ/Test score Hierarchy remains about the same even in the case Transracial adoption, or when adjusted for socio-economic variance. 3. How did peoples/races/etc, get their "culture"? Did they win it in a lottery, or did they develop because OF evolutionary IQ. This is especially vacuous. There will indeed always be a Valedictorian... um , uh. Proving nothing. We have national testing to discern what that local distinction means. +
Unless they studied people with extra chromosomes and genetic anomalies I cannot really take this study at face value.
1) I don't deny it, I simply regard it as unsettled science. 2) The adoption theory is turned over because the reverse is also true. Kids from 'genetically' low IQ stock, show increased IQ (measured via academic outcomes) when adopted into families with 'genetically' higher IQ. This demonstrates how unreliable the genetics science is. 3) Culture is formed over vast periods of time, which I'm sure you're aware of. Some cultures prize education, others don't. It doesn't require genius in oneself to understand that valuing education will lead to better educational (and therefore higher IQs) outcomes. 4) African migrants (to the west) often outrank white kids academically. How does your genetics theory explain that?
and I repeat for good measure: if you ask any specialist teacher of academically gifted children what the common factor is (to all their students), 99.9% of them will tell you it's 'parents who care about education'. Keep in mind, I'm referring to teachers who have spent many many years teaching the academically successful of ALL colours and ethnicities. To my mind, there is no better evidence for the environmental argument. The people who really should know, via sheer weight of experience and repeated demonstration, can find only a single link .. and that's parents. Not money, not parental education, not ethnicity, not language, not race, not religion, not politics. It's all down to the parents' attitude to education, and their willingness to support and enhance it.
IOW, you still deny it. I might add: IQ is 75% Heritable (see the OP), and this is remarkably on the money with academics. It's a miracle! Unless both are true. The IQ differential pretty much remains. As a matter of fact, It was first noticed with [oft Malnutrited) Korean and Vietnamese War babies. They outscored their USA/EU 'white' parents and schoolmates. No way this should have happened.. Unless... Yes and I pointed out Why they prized education. It (and IQ) were evolutionary adaptations to be successful in a more advanced society/people. Yes, I often see this. Of course, to the degree it is, it's oft bad sampling. ie, many of the Nigerian immigrants come here TO go to college. They are the cream of their society, the top 1-2%. The ones good enough for foreign university, perhaps 2 SDs above their mean. or, ie, The controversial but correct: In Search of a High IQ African Population This should bring ejay02 out of Lurk mode. +
1) coolio. 2) you avoided commenting on the reverse (which renders this argument uncertain, at best). if a 'high IQ' family can alter 'low IQ' adoptees, you have some ground to cover before this is settled. 3) are you seriously trying to come up with a 'genetic' explanation for why some people value education and some don't? 4) my country has a fair sized community of African refugees, and many of their kids are ahead of our whites. they absolutely did not come here to go to university, they came here with nothing. not even the language.
It's not just Coolio, it's telling. Race differences in intelligence: how research changed my mind to overcome the “all races are equal” dogma. http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-d...erences-in-intelligence-how-i-changed-my-mind I seriously said that some Cultures/peoples/populations/races value education more because they are smarter... genetically. I've seen that, and I acknowledge it. I posted the reason for my country's experience... I'm Not sure I have an explanation for 'your country'/UK: whether this is an anomaly of some type. A number of possibilities: 1. 'white' natives in Public school are perhaps not the best of their group, or even average. Don't know your system/who goes where/why. 2. the high-performing Nigerians seem to be especially from one tribe (Igbo, I think) that may indeed have a genetic advantage over their sub-Saharan compatriots for some reason, as yet obscure. We are just starting to find the Genes/sequences for IQ. Perhaps 5%. 3. Some of the other Africans are from the more mixed Horn/N-E, not sub-Sahara. Oh, and (5) nothing on the easily digestible stats in the youtube. +
I'm not in the UK, and our Africans are very black, but mostly not Nigerian, though we do have some Nigerians. And in this country, public schools rank the highest academically, by quite a good margin. Our public school students therefore come from every strata of any given district. The richest families, to the poorest, and all races. Once again, if you are interested in learning more on this .. I urge you to speak to specialist teachers (qualified and practised in teaching the academically gifted). They, of all people, are in the best position to identify what is common to such students.
Quite right. And it's been obvious since he denied my attrbuting to the UK. Of course, it then became obvious to me why. Australia has very few Black sub-Saharans. Most of it's African immigrants are White sub-Saharans/Afrikaners! Many fled 'liberated' South Africa and Zimbabwe with their lives in danger. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Australians#Demographics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Australians#Countries_of_birth Also, and alas, the IQ's of Australian Aboriginals (64) is even lower than that of sub-Saharans. Herculean efforst have been made to give them special and remedial edu for a decade of more. Billions down the the tube. It's an intractable problem It's one of the best examples, and perhaps why this Australian study came to the conclusion it did. +
That's funny, because the statistics on Africans in Australia show them as being far more criminal than the national average. None of the other claims of black Africans outperforming whites could ever be supported, either. SUDANESE and Somali-born Victorians are about five times more likely to commit crimes than the wider community, a trend that must be addressed to prevent Cronulla-style social unrest, police warn. The most common crimes committed by Somali and Sudanese-born Victorians are assault and robbery, illustrating the trend towards increasingly violent robberies by disaffected African youths. www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/sorry-for-telling-us-the-truth-about-african-crime-rates/news-story/b88824724f4c9eac5cb8e14afa038916
Despite Rising Test Scores, Black Students Still Face Achievement Gap Standardized Tests by: James Wright Special to the AFRO - jwright@afro.com - August 23, 2017 https://afro.com/despite-rising-test-scores-black-students-still-face-achievement-gap/ "...Bowser was joined by D.C. Deputy Mayor of Education Jennifer Niles, State Superintendent of Education Hanseul Kang, D.C. Schools Chancellor Antwan Wilson and Scott Pearson, the director of the DC Public Charter School Board. The mayor noted that there were score increases in every ward and credited the professional development programs and changes in the curriculum that have occurred over the past few years. English Language Arts (ELA) and math scores Overall increased four and two percent, respectively. Black students increased their ELA scores by 2.7% and math at 1.2%. Despite the gains, African Americans still lag behind Whites, who had increases of 7.7% in ELA and 4.5% in math. In summary, 22% of Blacks showed proficiency in ELA compared with 82% of Whites, while in Math, African Americans 18.6% showed proficiency while Whites posted 75.7%. D.C. Schools Chancellor Antwan Wilson, who attended the Watkins event with Bowser, said “We must do more to increase the scores of Black students.”Bowser agreed with Wilson, saying that “we are now focused on closing gaps.”..... Wow. Those differentials are draconian evidence the "gap" aint "closing" in the last few decades. In fact, it seems to be Growing due the much more significant gains of white students on the same tests. Whites widened the Gap: gained 5% MORE on Math scores than blacks, and 3.3% MORE in ELA/English. App 20% of DC Blacks... but 80% of whites, show Math and English Proficiency now. If the "Gap" had closed for 4 decades... it must have been 'inter-special' previous! Yeah, go ahead, cite an old Nisbett ambiguity as 'rebuttal'. I live in the real world, with real unmassaged facts. So again, tell me Why Blacks should be Over-represented at Harvard relative to their 12.7% population? +
