McCain Announces Opposition To Obamacare Repeal Bill, Possibly Dooming It

are those the same polls that said he couldnt possibly win? Yeah stocks are up, military is getting rebuilt, jobs and companies are coming back....how awful it must be for leftists today.

 

I love it when people say silly things like "the dems have COMPLETELY DESTROYED OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM. Let me guess you're one of the smart ones who voted for trump. I hope you tell the millions and millions who can see doctors that the healthcare system is destroyed. I hope you show the CBO that their numbers are wrong, after all you're smart. How has it affected you personally?

 

Yep, you are one of those trump supporters. She should be in prison even though as desperate as the right was to indict her for something and couldn't find anything, ....but I bet you want them to stop investigating trump and Russia.

 

I'm doing great...I'm in the 5%. THanks for fighting for me , I'll fight for the needy. I guess the military that has more waste is much more important to you than education and infrastructure and healthcare . Though if this idiot keeps making schoolboy threats we will probably need the military.

 

The country is more divided than ever. He can't even work with the House and Senate. He's can't keep advisors. He's the Great Divider!

 

lol...he doesnt know ACA is a failure. Typical uneducated Hillary supprter.

 

Did he just work with dems on the debt ceiling? Its a yes or no.

 

Dont know if youve seen this during Jerry Springer commercial breaks but a thermonuclear equipped nation is actively shooting missiles over our allies, is about to detonate a nuke over the pacific and is actively threatening to wipe us out...Education wont matter much to states like Hawaii when they are nuked. All of those things are important and keeping us safe is the #1 priority. Its assinine to assume that because you support a strong military that you dont support the needy. I support all of the above as I pay taxes unlike most of the leftists who apparently have plenty of free time during the work week to throw rocks at police.

 

It isn’t a total failure at all....It needs tweaking. As I said perfect is the enemy of good. What you righties are offering should be an insult to you. Every single medical organization opposes it and 75% of the country opposes it .

 

When you take your break from Fox News you’d learn that trump is daring n Korea to act....but you adore him too much, He is like a walking Jerry Springer show

 

Because he passes himself off as a business man and because he co-authored a book called "The Art of the Deal" people think trump is a negotiator. trump has never negotiated a day in his life. He's a big bully and if he can't get his way he sues you.

 

mmkay...tell us what trump should do? back down and let NK develop even more powerful nukes at a mass scale? and you guys wonder why you lost. Better NK gets nuked than our allies or us.
So tell us....this is where you say talk/sanctions...blah blah...and I cite the last 20 years showing that is an absolute failure.

 

Really? I know doctors leaving the profession because of Obamacre. If you cant accept facts then we are done.

 

It's not a YES or NO. He created more division with his Republican House and Senate. Why couldn't he work with everybody? As if the Great Divider needed more tension with Ryan and McConnell.

 

Looks like Cruz is out on this one too. I predicted this would happen if the bill looked like a "lean no". I'm not sure it will even come up for a vote now but, if it does, I'm pretty sure the number of repub "no" votes is only going to rise from here.

Fact is, Obamacare (which most can agree is a patchy mess) is the closest you can get to a public/private partnership which covers a substantial number of people. The only options are to lurch right and go back to the old system which wasn't working with skyrocketing premiums, many unable to get coverage etc. Move slightly left with a public insurance option which I think would be massively popular and even bring down premiums in the private market or go all out single-payer.

I just checked the cost of my annual premium for a bronze (skinny) policy compared with standard National Insurance premiums for employed workers in the UK. I'm paying slightly more for a whole lot less plus there's deductibles and copays which apart from miniscule prescription charges you just don't pay there.

Now you can point to horror stories about the UK NHS but most people seem happy with it. Of course if you are not you can opt for additional private insurance which costs an average of just 1349.00 GBP ($1820.00) per year. British private hospitals have wine lists: https://boughtbymany.com/news/article/private-health-insurance-cost-uk/ Many employers, middle management and above, offer this as a bonus perk to their workers anyway.

We need to find a way to bring down costs and improve coverage for everybody. That's exactly what Donald Trump promised in the run up to the election and the latest bill would do nothing of the sort for many. Quite the opposite in fact.

 

He literally as a fact worked with dems. Thats more than Obama worked with repubs in 8 trips around the sun. In fact that dirtbag is still flapping his jaw at our current president. How disrespectful.

 

Cruz has dropped out too. Looks like Trump may have to go with Sanders after all!

 

You know, maybe that's not beyond the realm of possibility. I don't like Trump, I don't think he's fit to be President (and I'm not a partisan, I could happily vote for John Kasich or Jon Huntsman, you know, sensible, educated, grounded republicans?) but, I also don't think he's tied to the partisan mast either.

If he craves popularity and acceptance as much as I think he does, why can't he come up with a public insurance that covers an average working family for most everyday medical costs (no deductibles or copays) for about $500.00 per month deducted along with withholdings or estimated tax filings for self-employed, based on previous years earnings? That's realistically what most people can afford these days along with rent/mortgage, food, car payment, education savings etc. If people want and can afford more there will still be a private market and they could probably offer supplementary for far less than they do now (like in the UK) because they're not dealing with the bulk healthcare costs, so everybody wins.

Please understand, I'm saying this as a near retiring 1%er with everything paid off. I keep my costs low, drive an older car, only have the most basic HC plan (I live near an acupuncture/Chinese medicine university and they've fixed every problem I've had for the last 5 years for 30 bucks a visit with a graduating intern) and I still baulk at the cost of comprehensive "Cadillac" premiums. I can afford them but I know that, around here, a family of 4, even earning $100-$150k per year, would be scratching around to find that kind of money. That's just ridiculous. We are a talented and resourceful country overstuffed with some of the best people in the world. Why are we even talking about this? Haven't we got better things to do?

 

My apologies for snipping most of your post but I was anxious to comment on the above part. I was a huge Huntsman girl in 2012 - campaigned until I was worn out for him (in NH). I still admire him. He would have made a great President because he isn't divisive and he would be able to bring about real change through unity. Same with Kasich, who was the guy in 2016 my husband really supported (I was a Rubio girl but Kasich was my second choice).

Both great men. Both smart, able to work with people, classy, and true leaders. Everything that Donald Trump isn't.

 

As someone who is now, broadly speaking, independent, I scratch my head over why they didn't do better in their party's primaries.

I guess in today's new world order they're just educated, elitist, librul, RINOs or something else I can't even be bothered to waste time thinking about?

 

Looks like the vote has been canceled:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/26/politics/health-care-republican-senate-vote/index.html

 

I keep scratching my head about it too. If someone had asked me 15 years ago did I think Donald Trump would one, convince a bunch of rubes that he was a Republican, and two, that said rubes would actually nominate him for the party's candidate for President, I'd say not a chance in hell. But I was wrong. Never underestimate the ignorance of some people.

 

I disagree with your point that it does not need to be repealed. The biggest problem with the ACA is the thousands of pages of regulations. Regulations limit options, and that ALWAYS increases costs (though short term not always prices). And we have a problem with healthcare costs.

I think we need to repeal the ACA, and force the Democrats to work with the Republicans to write a good bipartisan replacement plan. But so long as the ACA lives, that will not happen.