McCain says he will vote ‘no’ for GOP health-care bill, dealing major blow to repeal effort

Beg to differ, Here are the polls.

Below are the polls thanks to RCP of public opinion on the ACA when the Senate passed it in November of 2009

CNN/Opinion Research 12/2-12/3 36% for 61% Against/Oppose +25

Rasmussen Reports 11/29 - 11/29 41% for 53% Against/Oppose +12

Gallup 11/20-11/22 44% for 49% Against/Oppose +5

Ipsos/McClatchy 11/19 - 11/22 34% for 46% Against/Oppose +12

Rasmussen Reports 11/21 - 11/22 38% for 56% Against/Oppose +18

FOX News 11/17 - 11/18 35% for 51% Against/Oppose +16

PPP (D) 11/13 - 11/15 40% for 52% Against/Oppose +12


Below are the polls thanks to RCP of public opinion on the ACA when the House passed it in March of 2010

Bloomberg 3/19 - 3/22 38% for 50% Against/Oppose +12

CNN/Opinion Research 3/19 - 3/21 39% for 59% Against/Oppose +20

CBS News 3/18 - 3/21 37% for 48% Against/Oppose +11

Rasmussen Reports 3/19 - 3/20 41% for 54% Against/Oppose +13

Quinnipiac 3/16 - 3/21 36% for 54% Against/Oppose +18

Democracy Corps (D) 3/15 - 3/18 40% for 52% Against/Oppose +12

FOX News 3/16 - 3/17 35% 55% Against/Oppose +20

 

McLame needs to go off stage and die quietly amongst his friends. Both of them.

He's betrayed his constituents. He's garbage.

 

Let's add Kaiser's monthly surveys from March, 2010 though August, 2017:

http://www.pollingreport.com/health.htm

There is no question that, currently, keeping and improving the ACA is far more popular than repealing it and replacing it with anything the GOP has offered.

 

Nah not at all, I think as a Private citizen he just doesn't care to much about your kind. Other than to make money off yas.

 

I totally agree with that. Trump promised something better, not something much worst. But those polls show that quite a few of the Democratic Senators and Representatives who voted for the ACA, did so against the wishes of the people of their state.

Here's something I complied a couple of years back on some of the senators who voted for the ACA.

Here is a list of Democratic senators in states where at least 55% of the citizens of those states, a few in the low 60% range opposed Obamacare when it was first passed in the senate back in 2009. These Democratic senators ignored the wishes of the people who elected them and sent them to Washington to represent them, which they did not. A few survived, but most are gone. Sometimes when senators tell the voters to stick it where the sun don’t shine, the voters bite back.


AK Begich – lost re-election bid 2014 – Republican gain

AR Lincoln & Pryor – Both defeated in bid for re-election 2010 & 2014 – 2 seat Republican gain

CO Bennett & Udall – Bennett won re-election in 2012, Udall lost re-election bid 2014 - 1 seat Republican gain, 1 seat Democratic Hold

IN Bayh – Retired in 2010 Republican gain

LA Landrieu – defeated in 2014 Republican gain

MO McCaskill – she survived only because the Republicans ran a nut in the form of Aiken. She had a 62% disapproval rating, Aiken had a 71% disapproval rating. With anyone but Aiken running against her, she would have been long gone, but such is life in politics.

MT Tester survived re-election 2012, Baucus retired instead of facing re-election – 1 seat Republican gain, 1 seat Democratic hold

NE Nelson – retired 2012 Republican gain

ND Dorgan retired 2010 Republican gain, Conrad retired 2012 Democratic Hold

NC Hagan – Defeated by Tillis in 2014 – Republican gain

PA Spector – lost in primary – Republican gain

SD Johnson – retired 2014 Republican gain

VA Warner – survived re-election 2014 Democratic hold.

WI Feingold – 2010 lost re-election Republican gain

WV Byrd and Rockefeller – Both retired – 1 seat Republican gain 1 seat Democratic hold


Total 14 defeated or retired resulting in with the Republicans winning that seat, 6 either won re-election or once they retired their Democratic successor did. A 30% survival rate.

 

What are you referring to?

 

Great Post !

 

Blame the Democrats they created the mess. Why would the Feds bail them out?

 

Fortunately, for Republicans who have voted for one bill after another that have been far less popular than the ACA, none has passed, so they may avoid the consequences.

 

You mean the constituents who voted for him will lose

Because, as I'm sure you know, parts of it have been talked about but the entire legislation has not been released. The parts we know about the GOP's "DeathCare Bill" is truly horrendous legislation while the GOP leadership is doing it's best to keep the rest shrouded in secrecy.

 

I was thinking the same thing. No repercussions for something that failed. By this time next year all this AHCA and repeal and replace will be ancient history, long forgotten by the voters. For the Democrats, their problem was the ACA passed. They suffered big time loses.

 

He doesn't understand that the Democrats were not invited to the table there was no discussion or debate on the bill.

 

It's recent history.

 

Yeah, pretty much. Since or during Bill Clinton. It seems the Democratic leadership since then has had the ability to make their folks toe the party line much better than the GOP. Usually there are always a rouge or two or perhaps a few. I think as both parties lost most of their moderates as time has gone by, the party line vote has become much more common.

I can remember back when both parties had their conservative and liberal wings, when there was no such thing as a straight party line vote. But I suppose since both parties continue to move further and further left and right, there will be more and more straight party line votes. I really hate the current polarization.

 

Oh? R's did nothing but toe the line for all of Obama's 8 yrs. I think for all of bush's as well.

I remember those years also. Crossing over that is.

 

Well then I would agree the best interest of the American electoric wasn't served so very Glad he will vote No !

 

There is nothing like having a president of the opposition party to unite the party out of power. It is said it is much easier to be against something that for and passing something that one will be held accountable. Actually I'm happy to see the infighting among the Republicans. Although I think it isn't so much to reflect the will of the people of the state these senators came from. That would be nice, voting according to the wishes and wants of the people you represent instead of just your party.

 

Without getting into the issue of whether or not McCain or Collins are right it wrong I agree that Individual Congress members are obligated to represent the people of their states.

 

Exactly, some how in the world of polarization and party partisanship, that has been lost.

 

The Republicans shut down the Government in October 2013 approximately 800,000 federal employees were indefinitely furloughed, and another 1.3 million were required to report to work without known payment dates in their effort to De-fund the ACA.

Americans are getting Fed up with Partisan Politics that do not result in bettering average Americans Lives

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/24/politics/cnn-poll-republican-party-approval/index.html
...Fewer than three in 10 Americans -- 29% -- hold a favorable view of the Republican Party according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS. That is down 13 percentage points from March and is the lowest mark for the GOP since CNN began asking the question in 1992....

 

And even though they have that low of an approval rating, congress has a 96% incumbent re-election rate. Im always amazed that america elected Trump because they were so "frustrated with washington", yet they re-elected congress at a 96% rate.

I will NEVER understand the american electorate

 

I also thought Rubio would win the general election. I still do. In fact, I think in November most anyone who wasn't a member of the Manson family could have beaten the corrupt granny the Dems tried to foist upon us.

I'm also seeing an opening for the Libertarian wing of the GOP. There's a guy running in my Congressional district (challenging the heathenous Democratic incumbent) who is a Republican state Senator with extremely Libertarian leanings. He is a good friend of my husband's, and I have had the pleasure to meet him many times and have become friendly with his wife (also an NH lawmaker). He thinks the Libertarian ideals could have a good chance now. I agree with him. But to your point, the Libertarian Party as a nationl entity is lacking leadership and a strong, solid message. Gary Johnson is a good man, but he isn't the one to lead the charge, nor is Bill Weld.

 

Collins bails.

Looks like this Grassidy piece of republican garbage is goin' DOWN in flames too...

 

Healthcare proposal is trying awfully hard to put Healthcare to the state Level. We would then have 50 versions and 50 duplicated efforts.

However there is a opening in Legislation that does not dictate how the " block grants " must be used.

Most states are in debt and cash strapped. It's Likely Healthcare will be devastated when states decide what's more important..............