Media trust hits new low

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    In politics the "story" is on a different planet.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    I dumped mine over 10 years ago. Only "TV" I watch comes from youtube, netflix, things of that nature.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    If you're just talking with in the context of my OP, all of them.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Not going to discuss what Trump did or didn't do in this thread. There's plenty of other threads for that. No need to drag it into every single thread. But for what you said here...I've distrusted the media since at least the Bush years. The decline in the trust of the media has been steadily declining for a long time now. Even before Fox came around. One of my friends, may he rest in peace, stopped trusting the media when he realized just how complicit they were in demonizing minority races. What they said vs what he experienced never matched up. He was around when there was only one channel on the air.

    No, it didn't. It started long before they arrived. However with the advent of readily available information via the internet where millions of people have access to, the distrust started to pick up speed and it started to widen. Think about that.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, remember when Trump won in 2016? People were so quick to dismiss anything related to Hillary. "She no longer matters", "she's not the President". Of course the same happened with Obama. "He's no longer President, stop the whataboutisms!" and on and and on. Same thing happened with Bush.

    Basically, nothing has changed. At least in that regard.
     
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    Fake news and fake polls has taken a toll.
     
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    They arent my politicians since im from belgium.
    Then again we probably got it worse in some regard
    Try 8 ministers of healthcare for 11mil people, you would think they actually get something done with so many
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    MSM and Cable News is in its death spiral thanks to competition from social media and podcasting. They stopped objective journalism years if not decades ago.

    Now, instead of reforming their own platforms to bring back viewers, they are screaming that every competitor should be silenced either by being banned on streaming platforms or by petitioning corporate CEO's to stop advertising with competitors to put them out of business.

    It's so ironic to hear nearly everyone of the Left State media repeating the dog whistle phrase "The Big Lie" out of one side of their mouth, while saying that they are the "only" purveyors of truth out of the other. Anyone who says otherwise, according to them, should be stomped out of existence by force. They are looking like Orwell's dystopian Ministry of Truth, which is only making their ratings sink faster.

    There are certainly far more objective and credible long-form podcasters on the internet who provide a variety of political views without politicizing every view with a biased spin. I think long form podcasters are the future for calmer and more rational distributors of information. People are moving that direction by the millions, which is what is making MSM squirm.

    We can just hope that the Big Tech Oligarchy in partnership with our Corporate Establishment Political Party in Washington D.C. doesn't start shutting down opinions which they deem to be inconvenient to their propaganda. Censorship, under guise of protecting us from "misinformation", is The Big Lie.

    Censorship is the greatest danger we face today.
     
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    As planned by Edward Bernays, all Americans have been conditioned over generations to watch the media, and to view it as true and accurate.

    Yes, some of us have been able to break away, but it is a very insidious process. For the vast majority of Americans, our minds and thoughts and ideas ARE formed by men we never see.

    The agenda of the media is not the delivery of truth to the masses, it is the delivery of propaganda advancing corporate and government agenda.
     
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    Meh... you shoulda sold the cable box on ebay, where there's still a market...(?)

    Me? I'm 'cutting the cable cord' next month when my "commitment" expires. There's nothing to watch any more, except millions of commercials, FAR too many of which are the 'lawyer' commercials and ads for all the drugs that Americans take to keep from falling apart! I ran a stopwatch on it a couple of times, and, no kidding, commercials and 'promos' take up well over a THIRD of the time that you're watching....

    All the local programming (news, etc.) is available right off-the-air with a little antenna the size of a piece of paper -- FREE. One last observation: the Amazon Fire TV Stick is the single largest improvement in my TV-watching life. Get one of those things for a one-time cost of about $40, and with decent wifi service, you never need an expensive cable subscription again! Yee-ha!
     
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    Indeed, "Censorship is the greatest danger we face today." Definitely the most significant point anyone is going to make in any post today! By the time you're as old as I am, there's a lot of things that you've learned to dislike, but for me there's almost nothing in the world worse than these rotten, conniving bastards who censor what other people have to say.

    I hate censorship so much that I never even put people on "ignore" in this Forum! I'd rather put up with the worst kind of abuse, slander, misinterpretation, or outright character assassination than to give ANY opponent the tacit VICTORY of myself putting them on "ignore"....
     
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    I do use the ignore button sparingly but never the report button, because I don't need an outside authority to protect my feelers when I can dish it out and take it, plus make idiots disappear by ignoring their drivel. LOL I certainly don't want anyone banned though. Everyone should be allowed to show their character and let readers decide whether to hang out with them for a conversation. Or not.

    I was just checking in on GAB postings, as I do once a day or so to see how fast they are growing. The CEO put it this way:

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    That's adulting. Let people manage their own relationships.

    I don't associate with people who don't add what I consider to be constructive value in real life. I don't do it here either, though I think I only have "ignored" fewer than half a dozen people, and they aren't ignored for repetitive personal insults which don't much bother me. That is free speech and free association.
     
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    Spoken like a true Texan, and I'm proud that we have that in common. As a 'transplanted' Texan, very often I've wished that Colorado was part of Texas (and a fairly large chunk of it was a long, long time ago), but unfortunately, instead, for the past twenty years, we've been in a process of "Californication"....

    [​IMG]. Ah! What might have been! But maybe it still could if Texas were to 'secede'.... :twisted:
     
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    Colorado is a lovely state. The Californication is coming to Texas too, especially in Austin, with all the West Coast high-tech companies relocating here and bringing their Hipster employees along. I actually do like the diversity of people and ideas here. It's only people can't figure out that the reason the city is going to pot is because they keep electing Authoritarian Democrats for mayor and city council.

    Anyway, Texas can't secede, despite the myth, but our governor is definitely adamant about protecting the power of state's rights and state sovereignty from the overreaches and abuses of an encroaching totalitarian federal government. Hope the Hipsters and Techies don't spoil it for everyone. ;)
     
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    media wants everyone poor and watching cable to boost their profits.
     
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    yes, the right doesn't trust any media unless it's far right, lie for Trump media
     
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    I like Texas Governor Abbott a LOT!

    And I know what you mean about Austin, very well in fact... I'm a UT Austin grad, Bach. Science, from a million years ago.

    Austin was getting more and more "weird" even back in the 1970's, believe it or not. But, from what my old friends in Central Texas have told me, it wasn't a sick, America-hating, radical, "bad" weird until after we were about ten years deep into the 21st-century. A lot of things have gone straight to hell in the last ten years....

    [​IMG]
     
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    That's a broad generalized stereotype. It would be more interesting to know which media caters to your fancy than to read your assumptions about what interests "the right".

    Personally, I listen to a lot of live House/Senate hearings, like podcasts where people discuss current societal changes impacted by politics but without the conversation being centered on politics, and political podcasts where the host has a guest from the other side of the aisle join the show for a civilized discussion of common values and differences between political ideologies.

    I'm part of "the right", and don't at all care for anyone who "lies for Trump". I do not trust any media which lies. Period. That would be most of MSM. Cut the cable!
     
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    The only one's who believe the so called 'media' are partisan hacks who can't think for themselves. Who cow tow some party line as being the only path forward for the country.

    Thinkers don't belong to a corrupt party. And they are becoming more and more. Independents, are growing. Independents determine election outcomes.
     
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    Back on freedom of association, I don't hang out with the "bad" weirdos. LOL I choose friends who are a mix of liberals, conservatives and all mainly have a laid-back live and let live libertarian vibe and very good hearts. Put the real life weirdos "on ignore" and life is good! LOL

    What I can't ignore is the elected Democrat grifters who jack up my property taxes to build 6 blocks of downtown lightrail train tracks for a trillion dollars while allowing the water and electric infrastructure to deteriorate without repair and maintenance.

    Your comment reminds of a fellow who was raised here who was complaining about "Keep Austin Weird" and how much the city has changed from his childhood to adulthood. He said, "When I was growing up, Austin was cool. Now it's weird. I liked cool better." ;)
     
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    True, but regardless of what name you want to call them, QAnon, Proud Boys, Boogaloos, or Trumpists, they're the ones not dropping the crazy babble that was inspired by the Orange Turd. And as we have seen by what happened on Jan 6th, that crazy babble can kill people.
     
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    trump did not like the media as he could not get them to sign an NDA
     
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    Yea, all the Democrat governors that allowed BLM to riot (peacefully mind you) in all those cities (where NO ONE was killed) didn’t inspire one bit of violence.
    I’m going point it out but I’m sure you’ll find a way to justify this.
    Double Standard
     
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    Does your country allow illegal immigrants in then treat them to free healthcare, housing, and food?
     
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    Your evidence please?
     
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