Medicare For All is best way to capitalism:

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  1. james M

    james M Well-Known Member

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    Health care for all (Medicare for all) would be cheaper and better. It would replace the convoluted socialist system we have now with a simple more efficient socialist system. Then we could require published prices and higher copays until we had capitalistic price and quality controls.
     
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    better idea... everybody stop paying taxes all at once, in unison, what will 'they' do, lock us all up, heck theres no room in prisons as it is... then before we send them any money they have to say where it'll be spent, giving us the opertunity to say "nah, not getting my moola for that crapola" next...
     
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    nobody is thinking about that so why waste our time with it? You cant respond Op? Too confusing?
     
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    Bring on Medicare for all. It will hasten the collapse of the federal government.
     
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    replace one socialist system with a different socialist system... yeah, i got that hence my better idea
     
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    Sure because socialism always leads to capitalism like in Venezuela......
     
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    And unicorns fart rainbiws.
     
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    I'm good with my health plan. Thanks anyway.
    Let me ask you this: How is it "cheaper and better"?
     
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    That's the idea. Bankrupt America, Punish it's people, and fundamentally transform America into a global socialist police state.

    When Democrats say Medicare for all the really mean all. Like anyone and everyone who manages to make it here can have healthcare paid for by evil racist Americans.
     
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    The main reason I support "Essential Care For All" is to reduce our corporate health care expenses.

    For anyone's info, some of our foreign subsidiaries are contributing less than $150 a month per employee towards health care, due to the fact their primary health care systems are mainly funded by corporate and income tax revenues, thus, said subsidiaries are contributing nearly the same monthly premiums I'm contributing;

    My premium contributions; $130
    My employer's premium contributions; $523

    Average annual employer-sponsored health plan cost per employee;

    U.S . $9,000
    Foreign subsidiary 1...….$1,752
    Foreign subsidiary 2...…..$1,680
    Foreign subsidiary 3...…..$1,420

    In addition, our foreign subsidiaries have several other employee benefits Corporate USA generally can't afford, and that's because we're paying damn too much for health care.

    Since I've been promoted to upper management, several times I've been asked to cut cost due to the low price of oil, and Trump's steel and aluminum tariffs,
    and one expense I would gladly reduce is health care.

     
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    increase corperate welfare... you must be jokin... if your employees aren't worth a 523 premium, get rid of them and hire better people, or perhaps cut the top echelons fat by 10% to cover costs... they wont miss it 'cept for their greed
     
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    If you are sincere about your wish to lower healthcare premium costs, you should meet with your broker...there are several options, like ASO, that would immediately trim that fat.
     
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    But if Washington fails and there's revolution, the socialist structure will be gone. That's a good thing.
     
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    Or it will be a socialist revolution
     
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    They will fight for the goodies they have been deprived. History shows that there are far more takers than there are contributors. One way or the other they will try to take America from us . They are hoping we just vote to give up our country.
     
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    Moscow 1917 ... great.
     
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    Norway 2019....great. lol
     
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    Norway has how many people? 5 million?

    That system would never work in a diverse nation of 330 million where everyone is out to cheat the system.
     
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    You are out to cheat the system? I am certainly not so do not speak for me
     
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    You could be correct in your statement but first, you have to figure out what to do with all the people employed in the medical insurance business and then the number of doctors that would immediately retire with no one following them into high stress lower paying jobs. Oh, then there is the high cost of education to anyone who is dumb enough to enter that field knowing their income will forever be controlled by the government. There is a good reason there are so many practicing physicians currently in the US from other countries that have universal healthcare..
     
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