Medicare For All is best way to capitalism:

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  1. james M

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    total misunderstanding but yes single payer socialism in poor European countries is cheaper and better than the convoluted spaghetti socialism we have in USA. Best system by far would be capitalism. Ever heard of Cuba/ Florida?
     
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    why so afraid to tell us how you'd create free markets from spaghetti socialist mess we have now?
     
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    Remove government.
     
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    No need to ban guns that use it then
     
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    LOL, every country that institutes single payer, the budget for that becomes their biggest budget item. The only way to make it cheaper is with artificial price controls and rationing care.
     
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    because we are all about freedom, not govt. You honestly didn't know that??
     
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    single payer in Europe is 35% of our cost. THe way to make it cheaper is capitalism: published prices high copays. NOw do you understand?
     
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    Healthcare isn’t a free market commodity, so capitalism can’t solve it. Single payer is the demonstrated superior system to ours. It provides better care at a fraction of our cost.
     
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    Healthcare can’t operate under free market principles. It isn’t a commodity.
     
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    nope, published prices and higher copays would work just fine to move toward Republican capitalismism
     
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    wrong of course. people can shop for price and quality in health care just like any other product.
     
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    Of course it's a varmint round Vegas. I have 30 rounds of "varmint" ammo locked and loaded next to the bed. Never know when some "varmint" might need shooting.
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    Now can we get back to medicare?
     
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    I’m right, as usual.

    No they can’t. Have a heart attack? You’re going to the nearest ER. Same thing in any number of a thousand other scenarios. You have no choice where you are going to get life saving care.

    It’s why every country with single payer gets better care for a fraction of our cost.
     
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    Can only commodity industries operate under free markets? False premise
     
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    Despite the fact that you can't prove better
     
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    Health care can even operate on the barter system. I have done it.
     
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    Apples and oranges, still becomes their largest budget item.
     
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    Total nonsense. Do you even know what you are talking about?
     
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    cut the BS please if you disagree say why or admit it is beyond your ability
     
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    so it would be ours too until it switched to capitalism and prices dropped 80% and govt was not involved
     
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    Typically

    You don’t understand economics.
     
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    You know that I have.
     
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    No it can’t.
     
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    I know you think you have.
     
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    yes and nearest would be competitive in price and quality or it would have gone bankrupt long before your heart attack. You have learned this 123 time before. Shall we go for 125?
     
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