Members of Congress 'holding secret conversations about removing Donald Trump from office'

It's entirely legal to do so. Why wouldn't it be? It's not "treason" for Congress to discuss impeaching the president.

As an aside, impeachment is a purely political process. A president can be impeached any time a majority of the House decides it wants to. The president can be removed from office if 2/3 of the Senate agrees. That's the only real criteria. The main constraint on impeachment is the voters (getting voted out of office) and long-term thinking (if we make impeachment too easy and common, our own guy will get impeached next time).

 

Yes, which is why this whole thing is just a waste of time. Republicans can't vote to impeach him because Trump loyalists (and secret loyalists- the silent folks) will retaliate with later Presidents. This couldn't be more of a waste of time. However, when this all fails and Trump isn't impeached (the left has tried to impeach the last 4 right wing Presidents), it's one more thing I can laugh at.

 

Even if you think Republicans have no devotion to the Constitution at all, and only operate on selfish political interest, they will vote to impeach if the pain of not doing so exceeds the pain of doing so. If Trump continues to sow chaos, lie and pull stunts like firing Comey, he will have provided plenty of grounds for removal if it starts to look like he will cost Congress heavily in 2018.

You must have missed the ACTUAL impeachment of Clinton, and the drumbeat on the right to impeach Obama -- including a ton of calls from sitting members of Congress.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_Barack_Obama

You want total loony, the Oklahoma state Legislature filed a resolution demanding the impeachment of Obama because of the transgender bathroom issue.
http://www.koco.com/article/oklahom...sure-asking-congress-to-impeach-obama/4309866

There were a couple of isolated calls by Democrats in Congress to impeach Bush for lying us into a war in Iraq (John Conyers and Keith Ellison). But they were shut down by Nancy Pelosi. The only significant effort came from a grandstanding Dennis Kucinich, who filed articles of impeachment in June 2008, just a few months before Bush's term ended. That, too, was circular-filed by the Democrat-controlled House.

 

Lol firing comey? The left wing loonies called for that for months. As for impeachment, I say, Best of luck to you

 

Okay. That has nothing to do with my point.

Okay. Again, that has nothing to do with my point.

 

You don't have a point. You have a dream.

 

What part of my post represented a dream?

I simply noted that the GOP would be willing to impeach Trump when the pain of doing so is less than the pain of NOT doing so.

Maybe you disagree. Maybe you think they will hold fast to Trump even if it means political suicide.

But that doesn't make what I wrote "a dream."

 

They are blowing hot air. Trump will never be impeached. Especially not now.

 

Does he have trouble emailing?

 

The only reason there were not massive protests is because, in some of these countries (such as Saudi Arabia) you can be sent to prison for even criticizing the government. They'd probably be beheaded for an actual protest. That's why the Orange Maggot chose these countries to visit. The dictators have the same lack of character, integrity, and principles, as trump.

 

Assume much? As long as he isn't apologizing I couldn't care less.

 

Bill Clinton was impeached because he lied about his sexual activity with a subordinate federal employee and how she was rewarded when being sued under federal civil rights law by a former subordinate state employee whom he sexually assaulted and sexually harassed.

So do you believe it is OK for bosses and CEO's to commit perjury and obstruction of justice when they are being sued in federal court for sexual harassment? Let's take Bill O'Reilly, it will be OK if any of the claims against him goes to court to suborn the perjury of others, submit false affidavits and tamper with witnesses in order to get out of it? And of course he should get his job back.

 

Evidence of what, remember the Democrats after Nixon set the precedent obstruction of justice is not grounds for impeachment and removal.

 

You read way beyond the point of my post. I merely made an analogy.

 

War crimes and crimes against humanity? What in the actual ****?!?

I especially loved this bolded part. Laughed for a good minute. So ALLEGATIONS of wrong doing now constitute legal precedent and are grounds for impeachment, even if those allegations later turn out to be false?

 

It's getting more ridiculous by the day. Fake news spam is apparently okay anywhere on this forum now instead of being moved to the Conspiracy Theory forum where it belongs.

 

Here's more:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/31/trump-impeach-polling-238947


More than three-quarters of GOP voters, 76 percent, don’t think Congress should impeach President Donald Trump. | Getty

Poll: Support for Trump impeachment rises

By STEVEN SHEPARD 05/31/2017 06:18 AM EDT

An increasing percentage of voters want Congress to impeach President Donald Trump — even if they don't think Trump has committed the “high crimes and misdemeanors” the Constitution requires.


Forty-three percent of voters want Congress to begin impeachment proceedings, according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll, up from 38 percent last week.



"If President Trump was hoping his foreign trip would shift the conversation away from scandals, he may be out of luck," said Morning Consult Co-Founder and Chief Research Officer Kyle Dropp. "Over the last week, support for beginning impeachment proceedings among voters rose from 38 percent to 43 percent."


But that's still less than the 45 percent who don't want Congress to impeach Trump, down a tick from 46 percent the week before.


Only three American presidents in history have faced legitimate impeachment threats.


Much of the support for impeaching Trump comes from political considerations, the poll shows — not a belief that Trump is actually guilty of impeachable offenses, like treason, bribery or obstructing justice.


Of those who want Congress to move toward impeachment, a 54-percent majority of those believe Trump “has proven he is unfit to serve and should be removed from office, regardless of whether he committed an impeachable offense or not.” Only 43 percent of those seeking impeachment believe Trump has committed an offense that meets the high constitutional standards for removal.

The results underscore the intense partisan divisions following last year’s rancorous election. A wide majority of self-identified Democratic voters, 71 percent, want Congress to impeach Trump. But more than three-quarters of GOP voters, 76 percent, don’t think Congress should begin impeachment proceedings.


Despite the sharp split on impeachment, Trump’s approval ratings as president have stabilized, the poll shows. For the second consecutive week, 45 percent of voters approve of the job Trump is doing, while half disapprove. That has recovered from a low of 41 percent prior to Trump’s trip overseas this month.






While poll respondents were not asked explicitly to react to Trump’s first foreign trip, the poll shows voters are skeptical of Trump’s aspirations to help Israel and the Palestinians strike a long-sought peace deal. Only 9 percent think it’s very likely Trump will be able to broker such an agreement. More say it’s either somewhat likely (18 percent), not too likely (28 percent) or not likely at all (31 percent).


The POLITICO/Morning Consult poll was conducted May 25-30, beginning just after the Congressional Budget Office weighed in on Trump’s chief legislative goal in the opening months of his presidency: the health care bill the House passed earlier this month. The CBO’s report projected the bill, if enacted, would save the federal government $119 billion over the next decade, but 23 million fewer Americans would have health insurance.


The poll shows more voters continue to disapprove of the GOP health care bill, 47 percent, than approve, 38 percent. And the 33 percent who disapprove of the bill “strongly” far outpaces the 14 percent who approve strongly.


A 47-percent plurality of voters think the bill would make the U.S. health care system worse — more than the 32 percent who think it would make the system better. Twenty-two percent say it won’t make a difference on the health care system.


WASHINGTON, DC - JANUARY 23: (AFP OUT) U.S. President Donald Trump prepares to sign three Executive Orders in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, DC on Monday, January 23, 2017. These concerned the withdrawal of the United States from the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), a US Government hiring freeze for all departments but the military, and "Mexico City" which bans federal funding of abortions overseas. (Photo by Ron Sachs - Pool/Getty Images)

Poll: Trump approval rating hits new low

By STEVEN SHEPARD

Forty-seven percent of voters also believe the bill will increase their health care costs, while only 18 percent think it will lower their costs and 17 percent don’t think it will have an impact.


Last week’s CBO report is unlikely to improve voter perceptions of the bill. Told about both the bill’s deficit savings and the reductions in health insurance coverage, only 20 percent say it would make them more likely to support the bill. Nearly twice as many, 39 percent, say it makes them more likely to oppose the measure.


The POLITICO/Morning Consult poll included interviews with 1,991 registered voters and has a margin of error of plus or minus 2 percentage points.


Morning Consult is a nonpartisan media and technology company that provides data-driven research and insights on politics, policy and business strategy.


More details on the poll and its methodology can be found in these two documents — Toplines: http://politi.co/2rRIjZs | Crosstabs: http://politi.co/2rBDJPd

 

Politico isn't a credible news source, it's Fake News Central. Get back to us when real news ever pops up in this.

 

Are you saying no one should be prosecuted for anything because allegations might later turn out to be false? Or just Presidents? Or just Donald Trump? Is that a serious?

 

Lol. Whatever you say.

 

I doubt anything Trump has done so far will get him impeached. But if the Democrats gain two or three seats in the Senate and some in the House, I would think it entirely possible that Trump's business entanglements and nepotism will give rise to plenty of other opportunities in 2019.

Trump is just too much of a Drama Queen for more than a few weeks to go by without a new crisis.

 

Thank you. That was the only honest reply possible to what I said.

 

All those crisis are purely made up BS by the media.

 

Like most Trump polls, the questions are all negative to skew it. Nobody believes news anymore.

 

They know they've reached the bottom of the hole but are too bloody stupid to stop digging. FFS Donald, get on and do what you said you'd do - drain the effing swamp before it drowns you.