Mentioning George Soros Is 'Verboten' On FOX

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  1. TomFitz

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    You mean Vladimir Putin, and his crowd.

    They must shake their heads in bewilderment at Trump, and his fantasies of having a Trump Tower Moscow. After all, what’s the point in building one of these condo high rises designed so that the units can get flopped back and forth between money launderers in a country where everyone who has money is trying to get it out!
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!


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    And what is right they'll tell you wrong.
    Then woe to all, it won't be long.

    When everyone will all wear a frown.
    For what is 'up', they'll call it 'down'.

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    Cartoons is about what I figured I would get when someone posts empty nonsense about George Soros, and I respond with verifiable facts about Trump.

    BTW, another difference between the two is that you can see what George Soros is up to. He does not try to hide it.

    In contrast to Trump’s scorched earth attempts. to hide his activities.
     
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    Not in the slightest.

    Soros spent a fortune trying to save Russia from itself.

    The reality is that capitalism requires capital. For a country to develop capitalism, it has to create a pool of capital.

    It's often not pretty. But what Putin did to Russia was worse.

    But this boils down to a very simple question. Would you rather live in a country like Russia, or a capitalist country, with Rule of Law, like Denmark, the Netherlands, France, Germany or the US.

    That is a very easy choice.
     
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  5. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tell me then, how can a country benefit when it's capital is being sent out of the country - as the oligarchs were doing before Putin? It was the countries and banks that were getting the money that were benefitting, not Russia and its people.

    The sanctions on Russia were meant to force the oligarchs in Russia to overthrow Putin. That way the interested parties could take control of Russia's wealth and rob the Russian people of what is rightfully theirs. What they didn't realize is that unlike the US, Vladimir Putin isn't dependent on the oligarchs for his power. His power comes from the Russian people and the Intelligence Services. He could have easily nationalized the companies of the oligarchs.

    The sanctions failed as did all the assassination attempts on Vladimir Putin's life.


    A few days ago the renowned American scholar on Russia Prof. Stephen Cohen died. Our government, instead of taking advice from knowledgeable experts such as Cohen, took it from self serving lobbyists in Washington disguised as think tanks - many of whom are blinded by an embedded historical animosity towards Russia. They have put us now on the doorstep of WWIII and nuclear annihilation.

    Professor Stephen Cohen:

    “... there are at least three cold war fronts that are fraught with hot war: that would be Ukraine, that would be the Baltic Black Sea region where NATO is undertaking an unprecedented military buildup on Russia’s border, and of course in Syria, where American and Russian aircraft are flying in the same airspace.

    And I would add to those three cold war fronts what is now called Russiagate, because the accusation that Trump needs to be impeached because he’s somehow a Russian agent so distorts and cripples the possibility of the White House making Russia policy that I think it’s a cold war front.”


    “... we have in Washington these — and, in my judgment, factless accusations that Trump has somehow been compromised by the Kremlin. So, at this worst moment in American-Russian relations, we have an American president who’s being politically crippled by the worst imaginable — it’s unprecedented.

    Let’s stop and think. No American president has ever been accused, essentially, of treason. This is what we’re talking about here, or that his associates have committed treason.”


    “Imagine if Kennedy had been accused of being a secret Soviet Kremlin agent. He would have been crippled. And the only way he could have proved he wasn’t was to have launched a war against the Soviet Union. And at that time, the option was nuclear war.”

    "No American president can achieve it (peace) without substantial bipartisan support at home, which Trump manifestly lacks. What kind of catastrophe will it take — in Ukraine, the Baltic region, Syria, or somewhere on Russia’s electric grid — to shock US Democrats and others out of what has been called, not unreasonably, their Trump Derangement Syndrome, particularly in the realm of American national security?

    Meanwhile, the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists has recently reset its Doomsday Clock to two minutes before midnight.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...l&utm_source=miximedia&utm_campaign=zerohedge
     
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    1) Capital flight is still a problem, and for the same reason. Russia needed investment capital, and that's one way to get it.You need to build up the economy to have Russian business be able to attract Russian capital. Putin's corruption discourages that.

    2) Most sanctions, like the Magnitsky Act, are an attempt to get Putin to behave. Russia being Russia, the state is a bit ruthless in protecting it's power...

    3) Needless to say, I don't agree with Cohen, few Americans do. The good news is that we are not at the brink of war. Putin can't afford a major war, and nobody uses nukes, it's suicide.

    While there is always the chance of blundering into a nuclear conflict, the experience of the Cold War teaches us people hate the idea, if they didn't, we would have had a couple nuclear wars by now. Maybe more.
     
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    I was really shocked to hear Francis stop Gingrich from saying Soros name. She must have received notice from the producers in her ear to stop him. The next day, Harris stated that they were wrong from keeping anyone from voicing their opinion referring to Gingrich by name. I take it that Fox must have gotten a lot of negative feed back threatening to not watch Outnumbered which can be a great show. President Trump said on Levin's show yesterday that he thinks Fox is losing the battle against progressivism and is going left. He's not happy with Fox like he used to be.
     
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    Maybe they learned their lesson from all the braindead conspiracy theories they helped spread and want to be more cautious now.
     
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    I know, you know and the Russian people know that Vladimir Putin has been cracking down on corruption ever since he came into office. It was the criminals who ran out of Russia with their ill gotten funds that started the virulent anti Russianism in Washington, that have been pushing us into WWIII.

    Calling the incorrupt like Putin; corrupt, and presenting the corrupt as being honest brokers has been a game Soros and the Saul Alinsky followers have been playing all along.

    The Magnitsky Act was put forward by the tax evader and criminal Browder, and it's a disgrace to our nation. As for behaving, I guess you mean Russia should bow to the new 'supermenchens' (Nazis) and hand over its wealth? Isn't it the right of every state to protect itself against those who want to destroy it, or are you saying that only certain states have that right?

    Just because the media controls the minds of many Americans, doesn't mean the medias aren't fools. Arrogance can be very limiting, and isn't very condusive to intelligence.

    Obviously you're not aware of how many accidents have occurred, and how many times a nuclear war was averted simply by chance - (or by Saint Michael, whatever you prefer). The last time it was a Russian who disobeyed orders and refused to respond to an incoming missile. It turned out to be a glitch in the computer. I recall when a missile was shot off and heading for Berlin, but the mistake was realized in time.


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    He funded the Chechen war... how did that little piece of death and destruction save Russia from itself?

    Soros clearly has delusions of grandeur... but wherever he goes he leaves dead bodies and suffering.... a scourge... a parasite
     
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    Soros said when he was young and pointing out the Jews to the Nazis, he had such an overwhelming sense of power, that he felt if he didn't suppress it, people would think he's insane. But he's not the only one with a 'messianic' vision of himself, Erdogan's another one.

    To get into the metaphysical, when a Saint tried to exorcize someone in 1917 he was having a very hard time. The demon was very powerful, and told him that there were three of them in the world. One was in control of Russia - which at that time would have been Lenin, and the other one was in China. I assume it was the time a demon entered Mao Tse Tsung.

    Eventually the Saint did exorcize him and I assume the demon then went into Kemal Attaturk and then Adolph Hitler, or directly into Hitler - but I'm just guessing here, I really don't know.
     
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    Before the Gump era, it was mostly just Jewkooks (angry, ignorant, paranoid antisemites) who spent their days and nights obsessing over George Soros. You know, the kind of people you used to hang with over at the Pravda forum. Of course RT seeks to promote that brand of alt-right lunacy since it is the Russian government's objective to radicalize our people by pushing the radical fringe into the mainstream.
     
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    So you're saying that any nation that didn't go along with Soros' liberalism and regime change policies, and preferred to retain their own nation's sovereignty was a Jewkook? Interesting!

    What about the Jews who didn't like Soros for having sent their relatives to the concentration camps? Are they Jewkooks too?
     
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    I'm not referring to nations as jewkooks. Just individuals, particularly in western countries, who imagine a great Jewish conspiracy to depopulate white Christians and obsess over George Soros in particular.
     
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    As far as I can tell he's another money in politics chap, I'm actually quite stunned the left isn't in opposition.

    The two options aren't "he's the second coming of Christ" or "bring on the final solution", as with most issues responsible adults can deal with nuance.
     
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    Actually Koch and Soros work to the same ends. Both have a global vision over the sovereignty of our Nation. Surprising they don't work together. Maybe they do..
     
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    The race card is dead. Find a new game.
     
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    Mentioning George Soros Is 'Verboten' On FOX

    Verboten for whom? Tucker Carlson did a piece on Soros last night.
     
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    Politically, they are polar opposites, or close to it. Koch wants to run the country from the shadows.

    One wonders why the insane Right focused on Soros. Historically, it's Jewish bankers, and maybe thats close enough. There is, after all, some randomness in what they obsess over.
     
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    What he is calling Jewkooks are Right wing extremists that are White Supremacists more often that not.

    Which is to say they are paranoid bigots that are not exactly what you would call sane.

    They like to make accusations like Soros sent Jews to concentration camps.

    He was living on a farm.
     
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    The Economist estimated that Putin increased corruption by 20%. As you know, Russia was already fabulously corrupt. It's not every day you can buy an oil company worth billions for $17...
     
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    And Soros doesn't??? They both hate Trump and our populous movement.
     
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    And.....not a word about the far greater China influence and it's desire to elect Bejing Joe.
     
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    Our intel guys are saying China isn't doing much to influence the election.

    Btw, if you're going to try and do propaganda with a fictional insult, you really should get the spelling correct.

    And... we weren't talking about the election.

    Zero for 3... say, what does the ump say in baseball?
     
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    Yep, Soros was living on a farm in the middle of Budapest and not pointing out Jews to the Nazis. :roll:

     

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