I'm sure the way I wear clothes as well as serious violent felons and paranoid schizophrenics the way they wear their clothes are not a danger to the public.
Two that have left logicville for Ideologue land. We have people on here who hold their "freedom" above the social good. We call these people libertarians. Studies have shown they can reject social justice and respect for existing social structure if they conflict with their interpretation of individual liberty, which is antisocial and the thing they miss is man is a social animal.
Quite a few of those people founded this country on the idea that dangerous liberty > peaceful slavery. You disagree and would prefer to be a peaceful slave. We don't care.
And now it's the 21st Century not the 18th. A well trained soldier, then, could get off maybe 5 rounds a minute and any duffus, now, could get off upwards to 150. Costs/benefits have changed......I thought libertarians were more logical.
The principles remain the same. Being someone who prefers peaceful slavery, I doubt you would understand.
Or I value life more than you and don't base my morality on silly catch phrases....I doubt you would understand.
the social good is what the nazis, maoists and stalinists used to justify genocide. You pretending that gun banning is a social good is no different than what dictators have done for decades
If you actually valued life you’d want women to be able to protect themselves. You just want to take everyone’s else’s freedoms so YOU alone feel better.
So you are not going defend your stance that serious violent felons and paranoid schizophrenics should be allowed to own guns? Gun control is different than gun banning to the normies. Thanks for the condescending response, but I've read anywhere from 60 to 200 rounds per minute possible in a non-auto firearm. What is your "expert" opinion? Your example did not contradict more guns = more gun crime, which you said is false. I don't think you can prove more guns in women's hands would make them safer. I'll wait. It's just a righty talking point. More guns in homes make the homes statistically less safe.
I already did prove it. Women are statistically underpowered in a physical confrontation with a man. The gun is an equalizer. If you don’t want to be able to defend your at least have the decency to endorse women making that decision for themselves.
The Mexican government is lying. The AK-47s are being manufactured in Venezuela. The other military weapons are being supplied by the Mexican Army. They do get one weapon from the US: FN-57 pistols tend to be smuggled from the US. Assault weapons were all but banned in the US nearly 90 years ago, and have not been a problem ever since. Semi-auto-only versions of these guns are not a problem. No one in Mexico wants a semi-auto-only rifle when full auto versions are so readily available from the Mexican Army. They are not being trafficked to Mexico on a large scale. Biden is getting senile. That was already done nearly 90 years ago. Not by very much. Statistics are quite clear that gun availability has little impact on homicide rates.
There is plenty of proof. Just look at history. So what? I doubt that being robbed at gunpoint is any worse than being robbed at knifepoint. I doubt that being raped at gunpoint is any worse than being raped at knifepoint. I doubt that being murdered with a gun is any worse than being murdered with a knife. Actually there are some on the left who delight in violating people's fundamental rights. It might not be you, but they are out there. If you count people as militiamen, they gain the right to have military weapons. Self defense saves many lives. Libertarianism is good. But if you really want to save lives at all costs, the way to do it is to disregard guns and focus on trying to ban the private use of automobiles. Many more lives will be spared that way.
Correct. Venezuela makes AK-47s for the cartels. The rest they acquire from the Mexican Army. About the only thing the cartels get from the US is FN-57 pistols.
You may have proved it to yourself but that is a very low bar. Don't remember what "Without proof that sounds amazingly like paranoid conspiracy theory" but apparently I got no proof. You don't believe guns and knives are equally lethal weapons so what is your argument? Which would you rather face given the option? I for one cannot fight off or out run a bullet. I believe guns take more lives than they save. Gun homicide statistics are a hard number, objective. How many people were "saved" by a gun is a very squishy number, very subjective, because whatever interaction was occurring the end outcome never appeared, so you do not really know if a life was "saved". Basically it is uncountable, but gun advocates come up with fanciful numbers. Libertarianism seems to strongly reflect a narcissistic psychological bent....not good for positive social function. Society makes cost/benefit calculations. If the speed limit was set at 30mph it would nearly eliminate road deaths. I think society is coming to the conclusion that 2A is not worth the costs.
He was pointing out that the left tries to trick people into registering their guns so they can then use those registration lists to seize people's guns in violation of their civil liberties. Other weapons (it doesn't have to be knives; it can be many different weapons, like baseball bats) are lethal enough that any additional lethality that firearms provide is superfluous. If someone is going to commit murder, they have the tools to do it regardless of whether guns are available or not. It wouldn't make much difference. You probably would not be able to fend off a knife either if a determined killer was attacking you. Maybe if you count suicides and accidents. However statistics are pretty clear that gun availability has only a small impact on homicide rates. Yes. And so are stats about the prevalence of guns in society. It is clear that there is very little correlation between the two sets of stats. Whatever the numbers, they are clearly enough to offset any lives lost to homicides. Freedom is everything. Society without freedom is slavery. No thanks. Society is not coming to any such conclusion.
Yes, I'm aware of history and reality and I stand by that statement. You apparently fell down the same rabbit hole. You can't deny a handgun is a tool designed for efficient lethality....other weapons are less efficient, maybe why the military doesn't carry swords anymore. So it's additional "lethality is superfluous" is nonsense. Check out the homicide rate in other countries with strict gun laws....correlation. And where are you getting these statistics that gun availability has a "small" impact on homicide rates? As I said the numbers used to "prove" how many lives were saved by guns is fanciful and just there to justify the gun crowd's gun love. Name a country in the EU with their citizens in "slavery". They seem to be doing fine without our gun problem. Libertarian nonsense. What are the stats on how many times guns were used offensively and then we can talk.
