MGTOW.....!!!!

Discussion in 'Women's Rights' started by doombug, Mar 25, 2017.

  1. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    So sad that you think a man loses his "manhood" if he isn't the one earning the money. And what do you mean become ."emasculated"? Why do you blame women because black men felt "emasculated "after slavery ? It was white men who oppressed them.
    You seem to think men and women are physically the same, they're not. But etiquette treats women like they are helpless. We don't need men holding doors for us, we can do that. It makes men feel more "manly"
    I disagree that men were more Important to save because they make more money.who would care for the children who you think need a father more?
    I don't know why you think it scares women when men talk honestly. I see it the other way around. Being an early activist I've seen how threatening women Are to many men...and women of that era,
    I'm sorry you see equality as men being pack mules and wallets...I see strong men who love equality as the men I respect.....and luckily those are the ones I relate to and are friends
     
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    My spouse and I are equal partners that each bring different strengths to the relationship. As a team we back each other up and fill in when the other is unable or unavailable. Neither of us would have it any other way.

    When it comes to women I find intelligence to be sexy and looks secondary. As we age we lose our looks but a sharp mind never becomes any less sexy.

    Men who are intimidated by smart women are obviously insecure in their own masculinity but that is their problem. It is most certainly not the problem of the women who are smarter than they are.
     
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  3. Renee

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    I guess women are incubators and men profit from this role
     
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    Your patience with an ignorant argument and viewpoint from the 19th century is to be commended.

    With comments like the following garbage it is a wonder humans have advanced enough to have electricity :

    TK""""I would point out your gender wanted this before you could vote and hold jobs and participate the women had few obligations if they didn't marry they could work and be on their own. If they married then they were the husbands property to some degree but in return had one risky duty bearing children and other than provide sexual pleasure had to tend the care of the home and spouse and that was it.""""

    Yup, that was all women ever had to do, everything...including risking their lives to give birth..

    TK"""" The men sacrificed and risked everything and of course ran society with notable exceptions the women largely protected and provided for"""

    What utter BS.

    Again your patience is the stuff legends are made of...
     
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  5. Renee

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    I am in love with you :banana:
     
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    So your saying if the partner was disabled and on SSI and would likely not contribute much to you, but was a nice person, you would still have married them over a fit person with no baggage who could work and earn money and be productive? I can guess your going to say no and you might be an exception but most women would never consider the disabled person on the grounds she would be supporting the family and the spouse including medical costs and upkeep.
     
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    You might be surprised how capable the disabled can be at earning a living. There are a lot of disabled veterans out there doing just fine. Tammy Duckworth hasn't let not having any legs stop her and yes, she is someone I would be proud to have as my own spouse if I wasn't already married.

    My criteria for choice of mate is mental acuity rather than looks but I am somewhat of an exception in that regard. Your criteria is obviously different to mine.
     
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    Many women DO support the family and spouse... you don't know what "most" women would do...
     
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    WTF are you talking about? Why would i sign a contract that will morely screw me over. Women are initiating 70% of all divorces. Women aren't serious about marriage let alone long term relationships.
     
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    You have no clue what you're talking about do you. Men in the military are known to get cheated on and divorce higher rates than the average citizen.
     
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    A question isn't an attack.
     
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    For you information men who makes less than women are more likely to divorce.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...g-wives-ditch-men-em-em-wanted-stay-home.html
     
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    False equivalence!

    There is no validity to your asinine allegation that "women aren't serious about marriage" based upon who initiates divorce proceedings.

    As someone who has over 4 decades in a long term relationship/marriage let me explain that it is a PARTNERSHIP based upon TRUST. Anything worth having is worth working for. That applies to a relationship/marriage as much as it does to anything else. All it takes is one indiscretion and you can destroy the trust. And all it takes is being unwilling to put in your own effort for the partnership to fail.

    You are only blaming women but the FACTS are that BOTH sides need to be WILLING to make it work and put in the necessary effort.

    That you are not blaming men tells me that you really don't understand the concept of relationships/marriage at all.
     
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    I don't think you understand how women are treating men. For example, my sister left her husband, in her own words, because he didn't make enough money. He is a Calif State Park Ranger. He makes good money with a good retirement program. They had a beautiful home in a nice area, but that wasn't good enough for her. So she dumped him.

    My ex wife apparently married me because I fit the bill. It took me twenty years but I finally realized she didn't give a damn about me! She lied and deceived me for twenty years all while making my life a living hell. And when I realized she was never the person I thought she was, she tried everything she could to destroy me.

    I could tell you story after story.

    There was a woman online at a relationship site who was going on and on about her bf. They were in their early thirties and she wanted to move things along. But he wouldn't commit. So she went on for pages about why they were perfect and should get married. So after reading all of this, I pointed out that in 6 pages or so of discussion, she never once said she loved him. Her response: I never thought about that!

    She didn't give a damn about him. He just fit the bill. And in ten years when it all goes to hell because there is no love, she will blame him for everything, make his life a living hell, and blame him for not being the man she married. It happens every day.

    Some women have a list. Many have long lists. When the are looking for a man it is like hiring an employee. He has to pass the entrance exam. They aren't looking for love. They are looking for the right model.

    I can play that game too. So now I have a sugar baby and only see hot women in their 20s. If we are going to play the objectification game, I'm taking em young and hot. You couldn't pay me to date a woman my own age at this point. I would never be able to trust her.
     
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    Both men and women are to blame when relationships fail. Men screw around and think that they can get away with it. Some of them do. Same applies to some women so the blame-game goes both ways.

    The failure of a long term relationship/marriage is because at least one or both partners failed to work on the relationship.

    The SUCCESS of a long term relationship/marriage is because BOTH partners worked on the relationship.
     
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    And I'm saying the problem is deeper than that. Women have been trained to disrespect men. And after decades of this crap men have had enough. We have always known that some men cheat, or beat their wives, rot in a chair while getting drunk every night. But what is not recognized is how women are driving men to drink, cheat, and to commit suicide at up to ten times the rate of women.

    And I say this because I came about a half a second from blowing my own brains out. But after I got some hookers, after ten years with no sex, and found the will to live again, I started to understand how I almost died for my marriage and a heartless woman who lied to me from the start. The more I read and talked with other men, the more I understood that my story is not unique. Women's lib went too far and has created generations of perpetual victims who view men as tools to be used, and the cause of all of their problems. It doesn't matter what the problem may be, you can be sure the woman blames the man.

    And she will make his life a living hell for it.
     
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    Do you want to know why the market is flooded with sugar babies? And I mean flooded! I have my choice from thousands of women. The only women I've seen for five years are young and gorgeous.

    That is what a lot of women have been doing all along. My ex was just a sugar baby with a wedding ring. But in this arrangement, I actually get sex.
     
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    You really have been damaged...I don’t blame you for wanting a “sugar baby” the term itself shows your needs..you want a baby, women are too scary.
     
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    Young..gorgeous..sex...the words for the “babies” you like. Of course never have you mentioned , Intelligent, successful or educated. That doesn’t speak to well about your performance in bed if you wife didn’t have sex with you
     
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    Look at History, 350 years ago,
    How many women occupied seats in Parliament ?

    Or any Government house, servants do not count.

    Waiting, tic toc,
    Thrill us with your acumen.
     
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    Proof?
     
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    Many Men want Tots in bed, not big strong Women.

    I admire tall strong women.
    If I marry, I do not want a lil kid,
    I would like a tall strong well muscled athletic woman....

    Oh I forgot, brainy most of all....
     
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  24. Renee

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    You described me., :)
     
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    That was intense.
    Most profound.
     

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