Miami-Dade County Ordered To Allow Firearm and Ammo Supply Stores To Remain Open

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  1. Well Bonded

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    After passing emergency orders requiring non-essential retail and commercial establishments to shut down the Tri-County (Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach Counties) where ordered by Florida Governor DeSantis ordered the above mentioned counties to include firearm and ammo stores to be classified as essential business's.
     
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    Good. We dodged a bullet when Gillum lost.
     
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    You can put money on that, nothing like having a guy who is found in a Miami hotel room naked and passed out with a known male hooker and another man he didn't know beside him as the Governor of the State of Florida.

    He checked into rehab as they all do once caught but I doubt he will ever get elected to any office, anywhere in any state.

    I would have likes to heard the conversation between Gillum and his wife once she saw the photographs of her naked husband and his new friends that where leaked to the South Florida press.
     
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    Why do Democrats keep trying to close gun stores?
     
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    Good, I'm no lawyer but I would assume that the mandatory closing of all gun stores would likely be in some sort of conflict with "shall not be infringed".

    Plus we're in pretty much a national shelter in place lockdown meaning millions of American families are stuck together in their homes. How dare someone feel the need to purchase a firearm to protect their family that is currently locked in their house 24/7. The longer this goes the more antsy folks are going to get as well. Americans aren't going to tolerate being locked down like this for very long and if this sort of thing lasts for months I could very well foresee some civil unrest breaking out in parts of the country.

    I've lived through plenty of natural disasters and went to visit my father during the aftermath of Hurricane Michael. I was in utter shock at the state of the Panhandle after that hurricane ravaged that place. The amount of looting and violence going on was insane and all around his neighborhood I saw signs on folks homes saying stuff like "Is my stuff worth your life?" or "Armed military vet household, loot at your own risk". You absolutely wanted a firearm during that time folks were losing their minds.

    In the midst of this current crisis we are pretty much one broken link in the supply chain from civil unrest. Folks get real stupid real fast when their normal way of life is disrupted on a large scale.
     
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    Now that the matter has been federalized by Donald Trump, with the department of homeland security holding that federally licensed firearm dealers qualify as essential businesses that must remain open, what choice do state governors have but to comply?
     
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    Give them a couple more days - they'll think of something.
     
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    Because they want dependency and they know a disarmed populace is a dependent populace and they never let a crisis go to waste.
     
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    DeSantis would have issued the order without the DHS mandate, he very pro-gun and has little tolerance for Democrats using a crisis to get what they desire.
     
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    Their rationale in the first place was that if/when civil unrest starts cropping up an less armed population would be easier to deal with than a more heavily armed one.

    For some reason however that exact same rationale doesn't count whenever you use it regarding the safety of your family...

    Because you know, as I saw during the aftermath of Hurricane Michael in Florida the local police departments were able to do a wonderful job and making sure folks didn't break into your house.
     
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    Actually, it's the second part of the Second Amendment, which is... , being necessary to the security of a free state, ...shall not be infringed.

    The Second Amendment addresses three different things that shalt not be infringed. Only one of them has to do with a militia. That's what the commas are for.
     
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    iirc, firearm and ammo business was deemed 'essential' nationwide.
     
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    Such stores should be shut down. They are places where the coronavirus virus can be easily spread. It's best not to take unnecessary risks.
     
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    What I am seeing around here is some really dumb people, doing really dumb things, like going shopping in a packed grocery store or a Walmart, for nothing but to get out of the home, or before they where closed going to the park and partying all day long.

    "I've lived through plenty of natural disasters and went to visit my father during the aftermath of Hurricane Michael. I was in utter shock at the state of the Panhandle after that hurricane ravaged that place. The amount of looting and violence going on was insane and all around his neighborhood I saw signs on folks homes saying stuff like "Is my stuff worth your life?" or "Armed military vet household, loot at your own risk". You absolutely wanted a firearm during that time folks were losing their minds."

    Sounds like Homestead after Andrew, "you loot we shoot."

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    I have been through that, right after Andrew I shut down my electrical contracting business, there was no power for a few weeks, so who needed electrical work, other than generator hookups, if one could find a generator, then I discovered through a connection at WCKT/WSVN there was a supply collection center in NW Miami that was looking for volunteers, I mentioned this to both of my guys, they both agreed it would be best for us to go there in the morning and lend a hand.

    The guy running the operation was the brother of Rick Sanchez, who at the time was a reporter for WSVN, and his brother was working with the Florida Air National Guard to move much needed supplies down to the hardest hit parts of Homestead, Governor Chiles, an idiot Democrat not wanting to relinquish total control of disaster relief to the Feds, activated some of the National Guard, but not FANG, so they activated themselves under the guise of a training mission.

    The collection point was a public school in NW Miami that had been opened up without asking for anyone's permission, it just happened, our job as volunteers and those volunteers around us where tasked with unloading cars, trucks, anyone who stopped by to drop off donations, we also where tasked to sort and classify donations, by what they where, and how much they where needed, we had no power, air conditioning, or refrigeration, so when we received nice, but not to well thought out donations, like bagged ice and raw meat, it was given priority to be loaded onto the FANG helicopters and shipped South, water and toiletries where also high priority items, other useless items like microwave popcorn went home with the volunteers of if in bulk where swapped with local food banks for items we needed.

    In the late afternoon we would load trailers loaned to us by Publix Supermarkets with other needed, but lower priority items, more TP, diapers, blankets, thousands of pounds of bottled water, tarps, a lot of easy to warm and eat shrink bagged food, you name it, and then Publix drivers would hitch up the trailers and we as a caravan would head South on the Florida Turnpike to unload and stage for distribution all of the supplies.

    It was very surreal, totally dark, no streetlights, no street-signs, people looking like zombies sitting in front of gutted homes, the place looked like it had been carpet bombed, Guardsmen wearing ChemLights to check out who we where and then directing us to where we needed to go, I not knowing what I was getting into once I got off the Florida Turnpike had one of my guys get into the bed of my pickup with his rifle, I had a shotgun laying on the seat next to me, looting was already beginning and we didn't want to have anyone in the caravan be hijacked.

    We would start at around 7 AM and shutdown at around midnight.

    Somewhere along the way a message was put out that if anyone who was armed would be willing to sleep at the collection point, it would be greatly appreciated, Metro-Dade police would stop by the collection point randomly, but they where stretched too thin to have an officer stay there overnight.

    One of my guys, I and four other volunteers agreed to work alternate nights sleeping in the school, two by two, now in Florida bringing a firearm into a school is a serious felony, the Metro-Dade police didn't care, they wanted us armed, because they didn't have the time to babysit us or the school, so they had no problem with law abiding armed people in a public school protecting property.

    I quickly learned, sometimes the need for being armed, overrides the laws prohibiting such, the aftermath of Andrew was such a time.

    After a week and a half we wound down the operation, Chiles gave up his self serving political control of disaster relief and allowed President Bush to send in the military who was already staged and ready to hit the ground, and between them and the Guard made some serious headway to normalizing peoples lives down there.

    Our operation was supplemented by and eventually taken over by Navy personal and we just faded into the background to get some much needed down time and sleep.

    In the end, I believe we served a community we didn't live in, but cared about very much, we moved tons of supplies to where they where really needed, people down there where suffering badly, very badly, and we despite politics helped them out as best we could.

    One thing and something to remember, which really pissed many of us off, happened on the fourth day of our operation, the Red Cross showed up with media and some local politicians in tow, they used our operation as a backdrop to beg for donations for Hurricane Andrew relief and once the blurb was in the can, they packed up and where never seen there again, total spotlight leeches.

    Conversely, the Salvation Army hit the ground with what nowadays would be called food trucks and on day three where handing out hot meals, breakfast, lunch and dinner for no charge, the food was crude, think shrink bagged dried, just add water scrambled eggs, but was much better than nothing and few complained about the service.

    My business was shut down, we had no work and we where putting in 16 to 17 hours per day as volunteers, none the less I decided to pay my guys 8 hours for every day they volunteered, it was way lower than the hours of the work they did, but I couldn't afford to pay anymore than that, and it helped them to keep some of their bills paid.
     
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    Yea right, then why not shut down grocery stores and places like Walmart?
     
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    I already posted that a day back.
     
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    :applause::banana::bounce::clapping::juggle::truce::winner::strong:

    WELL WHOOPTY FREAKIN DOO FOR YOOUUUI!!!!!!!

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    jk;)
     
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    You actually took the time to post that, wow.
     
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    im not working much... and I'm drinking more.
     
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    Well have fun, your cool, but that last post was strange.

    By the way get more work and drink less you will find it to be very good for your body.
     
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    That’s my president.
     
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    One of the on-line sites that I but a lot of firearms and ammunition from (BudsGuns) is not selling ANY firearms to California. California has a limited amount of firearms they sell to California (The state makes them do a "drop test" as if a dropped firearm discharging is a huge problem. They have other criteria [and fees] and tests as well). Buds has a "California Compliant" icon you can click on to make it easy for Californians to filter out what can't be shipped there.
    When I went to the site a bit ago, I clicked on the California compliant button under firearms and there were no, none, zip, nada firearms available that fell in that category. They haven't run out of firearms. Even the Massachusetts Compliant button has firearms available. Just not for California.
    The last I heard, California was still part of this nation.
     
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    [QUOTE="ChoppedLiver, post: 1071558618, member: 69825] The last I heard, California was still part of this nation.[/QUOTE]

    But they don't want to be unless they can convert the rest of the U.S. to just like the liberal s-hole they are.
     
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    Im still getting paid 40 hrs/wk to be available for work (sit on my ass). No second job for me.

    And I can do 'work' at home while drinking :D
     
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    So should we shut down grocery, restaurant, and delivery businesses?

    California compliant!

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