Michael Brown -- New Democratic Hero

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Doug1943, Aug 11, 2019.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Doug1943

    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2015
    Messages:
    3,741
    Likes Received:
    1,748
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    If you don't know about the Michael Brown shooting and the subsequent riots in Fergusson, Missouri, look here.

    This is how the Left works. They quite consciously lie about an event, to make it fit the narrative they want. (In this case the narrative is 'cruel racist white policeman shoots innocent Black teenager'.) They spread the lie, and get the ignorant and gullible to follow them. Then, having established the lie, the mainstream Democrats fall in with the narrative. Are the latter just ignorant and gullible, or do they just not care, and are afraid of getting crosswise with a major component of their voting bloc? In the end, it doesn't matter.

    There may be some people on this forum who don't know much about the Michael Brown incident. If so, please click on the Wiki link I posted above, and then read this article.

    If you are a complacent conservative, or a complacent liberal, who thinks things will get better, that we will eventually see the Democrats return to the sort of party where they were thirty years ago, when Bill Clinton had what has become known as the 'Sister Soulja moment' ... think again.

    A summary of that moment:
    [SOURCE]

    How do you think today's Democratic leaders would respond? "Well, while of course I don't agree, but given Trump's racism, it's certainly understandable" or "It depends on which white people she means ... a lot of these Trump-supporting racist neo-Nazis need to be killed."

    That old Democratic Party is dying ... Joe Biden is the living (sort of) visible incarnation of that. The party that could swap places with the Republicans every few years, and you would barely notice the difference, that Party is being transformed from within. The name will be the same, but the political essence will be something entirely new in American politics.

    You can comfort yourself with the hope that the new Democratic Party will be crushed in the next election, the way Nixon crushed McGovern, driving a stake through its heart, while providing the basis for the creation of a new liberal party in the tradtion of FDR and JFK.

    A vain hope. The new Democratic Party is like The Thing. Even if it loses in 2020, it will be back.

    The solution is obvious. The earlier we start thinking about it, the better.

    Here's the new Democratic Party, the party would today apologize for, and tomorrow would celebrate, a Sister Soulja.

    [SOURCE]

    Remember: these people either know they're lying, or don't care, because lying is what their base wants to hear. I expect our liberal friends will not respond, or will give us a lot of 'Whataboutism' with respect to Trump. Even if every word of their 'whatabouts' is true, it does not alter by one iota what the Democrats are turning into. And don't think they just represent some tiny crazy minority. Wishful thinking will be fatal.

    The solution is obvious. 'Obvious' is not a synonym for 'nice', or 'easy'.

    If you think I'm wrong, please explain why.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2019
  2. Concord

    Concord Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2013
    Messages:
    3,856
    Likes Received:
    876
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I don't think there's any way of partitioning the country that is clean or amicable, and I don't think that's a realistic solution anyways.

    Now, I do see a road map to partition that isn't unreasonable. As the American Southwest takes on a new demographic character it's obvious that political coalitions are going to have to reshuffle completely. As it stands, non-Cuban Latinos strongly favor Democrats, which means that Texas is going to flip blue in the near future.

    Now, the fact that a two-party system usually approaches parity happens for a reason, any political coalition that finds complete victory will be dominated by a certain faction. Other factions within the coalition will switch sides. We saw this happen immediately after the Civil War, where inland whites who had fought for the Union (think West Virginia, eastern Tennessee) entered an anti-Yankee political coalition with their coastal neighbors.

    How is American politics going to reconfigure? I don't really know. What we do know is that the two largest states will be majority Latino, which seems likely to imply some kind of cultural/political affinity, though this isn't certain. If American politics reconfigure in such a way that the other population centers in the Northwest and Southeast manage to shut the Southwest out power it's not unlikely that secession movements in both California and Texas will gain some steam.
     
  3. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    42,058
    Likes Received:
    32,867
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I’m not voting for a single person defending this pos thug and if Democrats primary one of them than I will simply not vote
    (I can’t in good conscious vote for trump)

    upload_2019-8-11_21-47-14.jpeg
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2019
    HB Surfer likes this.
  4. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Democrats frequently lie to advance a false narrative.
     
    Borat, Bravo Duck and HB Surfer like this.
  5. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2016
    Messages:
    16,798
    Likes Received:
    17,571
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Quite possibly the understatement of the century.
     
    Borat, guavaball and US Conservative like this.
  6. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2017
    Messages:
    44,763
    Likes Received:
    32,099
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What I know is that this is an invalid pf.com thread in this forum, on several counts..

    That and Trump sucks!
     
    rcfoolinca288 likes this.
  7. Capt Nice

    Capt Nice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2017
    Messages:
    9,998
    Likes Received:
    10,217
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male


    what's your point? trump always lies.
     
    rcfoolinca288 likes this.
  8. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Democrats also frequently attempt to change the subject matter.
     
    guavaball likes this.
  9. Capt Nice

    Capt Nice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2017
    Messages:
    9,998
    Likes Received:
    10,217
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yeah, Democrats get upset when the worshipers of the biggest F****** liar in the world calls out any one else for being a liar.
     
  10. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    109,881
    Likes Received:
    37,588
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Which one of those pictures shows a crime deserving the death penalty?
     
  11. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    42,058
    Likes Received:
    32,867
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Him attempting to take an officers service weapon was the crime deserving the death penalty.

    The image proves only that he was a pos thug.
     
    Nunya D. and HB Surfer like this.
  12. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2009
    Messages:
    34,707
    Likes Received:
    21,899
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He didn't get shot for that crime.

    He got shot for going for a cop's gun and then charging the cop. Or, do you know something more than the Federal Investigators under the Obama Administration that declared the officer and shoot clean?
     
  13. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Trump isn't the topic of this thread.

    Stay on subject.
     
  14. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2016
    Messages:
    48,565
    Likes Received:
    32,307
    Trophy Points:
    113
    :bored:

    You aren't a Mod.

    If you have a problem with a post, report it and move on.

    Oh, and on topic, the "narrative" of the OP is hideously flawed.:bored:
     
  15. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2016
    Messages:
    12,203
    Likes Received:
    8,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Always amusing when a Clinton supporter pretends to care about lying.
     
    US Conservative likes this.
  16. Doug1943

    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2015
    Messages:
    3,741
    Likes Received:
    1,748
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Whoa, what a thoughtful reply.

    Yes, the real problem in separation-situations is geographic interpenetration. It imples mass population transfers and these have usually been bloody. But we are, used to be, America. We put a man on the moon. Maybe we could astonish the world again.

    And you're right about the tendency for coalitions to form, roughly into two blocs. I think the political scientists have a name for this tendency but I forget it.

    My own fantasy is that the Democrats and Republicans will have splits, and we'll end up with a three party system, the extreme-Democrats, the extreme-Repubicans and a new Eisenhower/JFK party - sort of like how the UK has Labour, Conservatives and Liberals. But I also recall how this tendency didn't work out in the Weimar Republic and we got something else instead, because the sort of situations political scientists like to study are 'normal' ones.

    But the post-Communist trajectory of the Russian nation, which in 1990 I thought would develop into more or less European social democracy, taught me not to count on the 'optimistic' variant. Note that the new Blue Texas -- and you're absolutely right about that development -- soon to be followed by a permanently Blue New Mexico and Arizona -- plus other trends -- will give the Democrats as they are now and will become more so in the future -- a permanent national majority. My conservative colleagues don't like to think about this, but it's inevitable. That will mean effectively open borders. So the Democrats won't have to change or split -- their majority will just grow.

    As for the now-American Southwest splitting off. The natural tendency would of course be to re-join Mexico, from which it was stolen a century and a half ago anyway. But ... when the idea of Chicano self-determination was popular fifty years ago on the Left, the last thing they wanted to do was to become part of Mexico again, for obvious reasons. So they invented a new country, called Aztlan. I can't see that working. Mexico will take back its stolen land. But the Blacks would definitely not like to live in such a place, whether part of Mexico or not, not to mention the racial minorities and the newly-minoritized whites. So it won't be peaceful in that case, either.

    So in a few years, some new Michael Brown will succeed in wresting the gun out of a policeman's hand, and killing him. He will become the Democrats' new hero -- much the way the left reveres people like Leonard Peltier and Mumia Abu-Jamal. The firrst gets more favorable publicity than the second, although both are heroes to the sort of people taking over the Democrats, probably because the first man killed two defenceless FBI agents and the second only shot one policemen in the back. (On the Left, you get more points for murdering FBI men than you do for murdering ordinary policemen.)

    Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. If I had to predict, being realistic, it's that 'Red state America' will eventually wake up, but by then it will be too late. They'll be living in California-writ-large, and be trying to sneak over the Canadian border and learning what it's like to be an unwanted would-be immigrant.
     
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2019
  17. Doug1943

    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2015
    Messages:
    3,741
    Likes Received:
    1,748
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    How so? What is invalid about it?
     
  18. Doug1943

    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2015
    Messages:
    3,741
    Likes Received:
    1,748
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Flawed how?
     
  19. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    109,881
    Likes Received:
    37,588
    Trophy Points:
    113
    According to the cop he went for his gun, but I agree there was insufficient evidence to charge him.
     
  20. Pred

    Pred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2011
    Messages:
    24,389
    Likes Received:
    17,378
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The fact that today after all the evidence is readily available, Democrats still outright lie with a smile on their face, is simply astounding!!!!

    And as our country slips deeper into a Hispanic majority kiss your ass goodbye because we will follow the same path EVERY SINGLE LATIN AMERICAN COUNTRY has followed. Utter and complete corruption and a descent into mediocrity and/or barely 1st world status.

    Prove me wrong. Show me a shining beacon of success that Latin America has produced? You can’t. They have produced barely anything of note in this world comparatively. It’s quite sad, but it’s our future at the rate we’re going. Our complete lack of future thinking will reduce us to northern Mexico, with small enclaves of ultra wealthy living above the masses. I pray my children or my grandkids will be among them somehow or they’ll be able toe flee once the **** hits the fan completely. It’s going to be horrifying once we no longer have the power to keep China in check as they subjugate everyone just like they currently do to their own people.

    It’s going to be Ready Player One combined with Elysium.
     
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2019
    US Conservative and HB Surfer like this.
  21. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2009
    Messages:
    34,707
    Likes Received:
    21,899
    Trophy Points:
    113
    According to the blood inside the cop car. You really don't know crap about this case, but here you are.
     
    Nunya D. likes this.
  22. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    109,881
    Likes Received:
    37,588
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You can only bleed when going for a gun? That’s a pretty idiotic claim.
     
  23. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Not just according to the cop.

    There was forensic data, including powder residue and the dead thugs blood in the police vehicle.

    Additionally, there was eye witness testimony.

    All of this was poured through by Obama's black AG.

    [​IMG]
     
    HB Surfer likes this.
  24. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2009
    Messages:
    34,707
    Likes Received:
    21,899
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Michael Brown's DNA did not belong inside the cop car. You still don't understand, or are just so partisan you refuse to.
     
    Nunya D. likes this.
  25. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Did you catch any of the democrat debates?

    They are still pushing the gender wage gap.

    Most elected democrats have an "elite" background, but I don't believe they think their base deserves the truth.

    They are there to advance a grievance agenda.

    If it tears America to the ground, hey so be it.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page