Michael Cohen offered Liberty University CIO $50,000 to rig two online polls for Trump

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  1. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is it illegal? And I heard where the money was wasted for trump didn't come in on top, even when rigged. ha ha

    If not illegal, will people talk as if it is?
     
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    You apparently don't have any understanding of what confidential internal polling information actually is.
     
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    Sharing it with Russians in order to help them influence an American election? You bet your life it's illegal.
     
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    I didn't mention that, but was referring to paying to rig a poll.

    If they have evidence that would stand up in court that trump told manafort to do this, implicating himself, we will have to see what happens to trump.

    Manafort was a shady character, before the campaign, obviously. So, did he share it with that russian businessman that he apparently knew, knowing he was also working for russian intel, or what? And how would sharing a campaign poll help russia? They didn't spend that much money in social media. Did that spending target a particular group of people, that would be voting? I have lots of questions on this and you will not hear them asked in MSM and trump haters sure as hell will not ask them.

    I am not a trump voter. I have only defended him against some of the insanity on the democratic side, from the haters, who have been quite irrational, since even before the win in Nov of 16. But if he actually broke laws that would send others to prison, hell, prosecute him and show him the inside of a federal prison. We have stopped sending big bankers to prison, but trump isn't a big banker.....
     
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    Conspiracy theories come and go,
    and yet with Trump it can't be so.
    It's Putin here, it's Russia there,
    It's what we're told you know?


    The years will come and years will pass,
    but this one's sure to last and last,
    for Russia must remain a foe.
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    The information is where? This guy has constantly lied to the FBI. How come now when he is close to be sentenced to prison, he has all this information he didn't give before?
     
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    @Jeannette too :blowkiss:
    Enjoy

    https://news.yahoo.com/muellers-office-disputes-buzzfeed-story-004908616.html?.tsrc=bell-brknews
    Mueller's office disputes Buzzfeed story
    on Michael Cohen

    WASHINGTON, Jan 18 (Reuters) - U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office issued a statement late on Friday taking issue with a report in Buzzfeed that President Donald Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen said Trump told him to lie to Congress.

    “BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the Special Counsel’s Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s Congressional testimony are not accurate,” Peter Carr, a spokesman for Mueller office, said in the statement.




    We can only hope the purveyors of Fake News are called to account in Civil Court if not Criminal Court. #MeToo too.



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    Russia has spent billions expanding its armed forces. Vladimir Putin is challenging the U.S. in the skies and on the high seas. He's propping up the Syrian regime with devastating air power tipping the balance of U.S. led rebels. He also continues to support break-away rebels in Easter Ukraine which is fueling instability on the edge of Europe. Nearly overnight, Putin became NATO's strategic adversary. The ratcheting up of tension in recent years clicks tighter on an almost weekly basis. News of Russia sailing warships near the British coast in "a show of force and a show of capabilities," in 2016. Unprecedented levels of military activity on the borders and in the airspace of the Baltic states, Finland and Sweden have been matched by the rapid buildup of military forces in Russia's Western Military District on the borders of NATO. Putin's strategic aim is clear: to re-establish Russia's status as one of the world's great powers and to dominate the former republics of the Soviet Union.

    NO, Putin is no fan of NATO and that's precisely why the U.S. need to remain committed to NATO.
     
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    And apparently you don't realize that if it is "confidential internal polling" those who are in charge "internally" can share with whomever they want since it is THEIR information. Dumb post.
     
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    Not with a ****ING FOREIGN ADVERSARY!
     
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    He shared it with Ukranian businessman with whom he had long term business ties and owed substantial debt, Konstantin Kilimnik. There is no indication that Kilimnik even cared for this information....let along had nefarious intentions with it. And there is no indication he shared with anyone associated with the Russian government. We do know that Manafort owed Kilimnik a lot of money and was looking to make things "whole". Suggesting he could have insider access was one of the ways Manafort was trying to do that. If the Trump campaign wanted to share this information for nefarious purposes with Russia and had secret ties to "collude" to win the election there are a lot of better ways to go about it then to go through Kilmnik. They'd just give it to them directly. After all, you are claiming they were colluding. Lulz.

    There are about 6 steps here before this could ever be construed as illegal. You've got a half step and you've gone on and invented the other 5 and a half steps with no evidence whatsoever to support them. But we really shouldn't be surprised. Fake news, conspiracy theories, and false accusations is what the left has these days. You are embarrassing yourself.
     
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    Kilimnik was considered a "foreign adversary"? That's who it was shared with. That's beyond funny. And if you are assuming that it wasn't really Kilmni but Russia this was shared with wasn't it Obama who told Romney this wasn't the 1980's anymore when Romney called Russia are "greatest geopolitical foe"? Wasn't it Obama who sent Hillary over with a juvenile "recent button" because Obama was mad that U.S./Russian relations had deteriorated under Bush43? You guys are always funny with this "adversary" business. Shaming Bush with treating them like an adversary, mooching up to them for years, and then turning around and calling them an adversary again when your candidate gets slapped down. Good grief. Lulz
     
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    No its not. Happens all the time.
     
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    Funny how the media can breathlessly report about something, and the gullible think it must be illegal just from the tone of the report, although the report never even claimed it was illegal. You believe what you soooooooo desperately want to believe.
     
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    dixon76710 does not understand deception and the law. But he will.
     
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    If you followed the news you would know that any build up of arms by Moscow has always been in response to our threats and build up of arms around the Russian Federation. It's not the other way around. I mean do you see Russian ships or jets roaming the Caribbean or along our shores, I don't - but I'm sure we will eventually since Washington is not stopping the provocations - especially in the Baltic and Black Sea.

    Moscow certainly wouldn't have built up their armed forces otherwise, they have a lot more important things to spend their money on. Nor would they have dropped the dollar and start trading in local currencies if they hadn't been forced to do so with our sanctions.

    But then again how would you know what Russia is doing and why it's doing it. I mean the MSM is certainly not going to tell you, after all the same corporations that own the media control our government - and they decided to make Russia an enemy, and they got it.

    Anyway I don't think you're ignorant of the facts, I think you have an agenda, and it's not in our best interests, nor the world's best interest.

    PS - As for warships along the British coast, well how else can they get into the Atlantic unless it's through the channel. Come on now, anyone with an ounce of brains would know that? How stupid do they think people are?:roll:
     
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    False >>> "If you followed the news you would know that any build up of arms by Moscow has always been in response to our threats and build up of arms around the Russian Federation"
     
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    If the USSR and the Russians were not imperialists, there would not have been the enslavement from the Arctic to Siberia to the Caucus to Eastern Europe from 1918 on.

    If the USSR and the Russians were not imperialists, they would not have been booted out on their Russkis buttskis after 1989.
     
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    Welcome to 3rd world immigration.
     
  20. dixon76710

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    Actually I have a doctorate of Jurisprudence degree and understand quite well. Why don't you cite ANY statute that criminalizes deception in friggin online opinion polls.
     
  21. JakeStarkey

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    sure, ya do :)
     
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    Why don't you cite ANY statute that criminalizes deception in friggin online opinion polls.
     
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    Why would I when you know it is true.
     
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    Your inability to do so is because it is false. There are PR firms you can hire to try and influence any online poll. Its not illegal.
     
  25. JakeStarkey

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    Nah, dixon, you know it is false. You can talk talk talk all you want, but it is what it is: you are wrong.
     
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