Micheal Dunn Charged With First Degree Murder In Slaying of Teen over Loud Music

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  1. Hairball

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    All three of them said Davis started screaming at Mr. Dunn.
     
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    Can you provide a source including the word "screaming"?
    Was this before or after Dunnce decided to repreimand them over the volume of their "thug music" (as he phrased it to his then-fiancee)?
     
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    That is not what happened acccording to all of the witnesses. Mr. Dunn did not walk over to them. Furthermore, the ballistics evidence indicates that Mr. Dunn fired his gun while seated in his automobile.

    Your statements are lies.
     
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    Screaming.. yelling? what's the diff?
     
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    Whether he walked over to them or not is immaterial. They were listening to music in their vehicle, and he decided to take issue with it. When they didn't do what he wanted, he decided they were threatening and shot a bunch of unarmed kids.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael-dunn-verdict-jury-deadlocks-on-murder-charge/
    "Dunn testified that he fired in self-defense after being threatened by Davis and seeing what he thought was the barrel of a shotgun through the SUV’s window, but the prosecution argued that he had shot at the teens because he felt disrespected.

    Dunn first encountered Davis just minutes before the shooting began. Davis was sitting in the backseat of the Durango waiting for his friend, Tommie Stornes, to purchase gum and cigarettes, when Dunn pulled into the parking space beside the SUV. The teens were blasting loud music and Dunn asked them to turn it down. The teen in the front seat, Tevin Thompson, obliged, but turned the music back up after Davis objected.

    Davis and Dunn then began a verbal back and forth. Dunn told the jury during his testimony on Tuesday that Davis threatened to kill him, but Davis’ friends said they did not hear him threaten Dunn. Dunn testified that he saw Davis getting out of the car and feared for his life, so he started shooting. The state's medical examiner testified that the trajectory of Dunn's bullets into Davis' body showed that Davis was sitting down when he was shot.

    Dunn left the scene and never called police to report the incident, even after seeing on the news that night that someone had died.
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    So, your take is that two individuals sitting were sitting in their own vehicles and that loud music was playing... and someone yelling in that scenario would be odd? I'm sure Dunn was yelling over the music too.
    I don't think someone yelling over music is justification for shooting them, otherwise every concert would be a the scene of a mass shooting.
     
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    Why would you presume that Mr. Dunn "reprimanded" them?
     
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    You mean other than the fact that he admits he made the initial contact with them by "asking" them to turn it down after he told his fiancee how much he hated that "thug music"?
     
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    How does that = "reprimand"?

    Please explain your reasoning so that I may have fun tearing your "reasoning" to shreds.
     
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    Affirmative.
     
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    Yeah, I'm sure that he was planning a pleasant chat with the "thugs". :roll:
     
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    What do you think he was planning when he did not walk up to the teens?
     
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    Do you even know what "thug music" is?

    . :roll:
     
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    You mean when he instigated the "conversation" over their music? Clearly his intention was to mind someone else's business rather than his own. It's just a shame he has no ability to assess risk, otherwise he'd be able to tell the difference between (a) a teenager who wants the nosy old man to leave him alone and (b) an actual mortal threat.
     
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    Are you now going to try to prove your definition is the same as Dunn's?
     
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    Look, the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) should have simply rolled his window up. Then the kid would be alive and he'd be planning his marriage to a nice looking woman instead of a 400lb behemoth named Bubba.. Gun owners need an example made so they'll understand that the right to bear arms doesn't mean you can just blaze away at anybody for anything.
     
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    Geez everytime some young guys pull up next to me with the windows down and loud music blaring I just put up my windows... it never occurred to me I was supposed to start shooting:roll:
     

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