Microbiologist: "They are Killing People with these COVID Vaccines" to Reduce the World's Population

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  1. Scott

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    Show where you have verified any of those claims, including verifying the sources, the data, correlation and causation. You quote one single line of quotes and deliberately ignore copious amounts of detailed rebuttal. Then in a twisted crazy way you arm wave these away and say they are debunker food!!

    I have the attitude that you are posting fake-news, outright lies, deliberate deception, conflated figures, speculation from imbeciles, all whilst you wilfully ignore all the examples of these! I have demonstrated examples numerous times proving all those statements, you have demonstrated that you are afraid to admit your hopeless gullibility and lack of logic or reason.
     
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    Totally pathetic. No verification whatsoever, a batshit website, no correlation investigation - not a scrap of scientific methodology! You have an a priori incredulity for anything that contradicts your relentless agenda driven batshit.

    The link you provide was lifted from another paypal funded batshit website almost in its entirety. It has used as its moronic percentile calculations a slice of data of ridiculously narrow and selective proportions. Deliberate and moronic deception!

    "The 2020 edition of ‘Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales’, shows that between the week ending 26th June and the week ending 18th September 2020, a total of 148 deaths occurred among 15 – 19-year-olds. Whereas the 2021 editions of ‘Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, shows that between the week ending 25th June 2021 and the week ending 17th September 2021, a total of 217 deaths occurred among 15 – 19-year-olds."

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    I've taken the 15-19 year old band from both years side by side and as can be seen, this bullshit method of cherry picked data is not consistent whatsoever! None of those weekly totals is out of the ordinary and there are 18 out of the preceding (green area) where 2021 is higher than 2020 BEFORE vaccines began! Also the totals for this band of dates he gives do not match up with his totals!

    You make all this noise about the scientific method - try damn well using it like I just did!
     
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    Be a little clearer on where you got your figures.
     
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    The same damn source your batshit website used!
     
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    I still don't see that info on the two articles that I posted. Please copy and past it exactly as it is and show the link to the page where you got it.

    You're also ignoring the other graphs.
     
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    You are absolutely hopeless! Completely devoid of any ability to follow a research line or investigate a simple website link/claim.

    On LINE 1 of your idiotic link, it gives the source - the daily exposé! Then from that link the source of the figures.

    NO I AM NOT! The "other graphs" are totally wrong. The data taken from the ONS website for 2020/2021 for 15-19 year olds for the entire year is NOTHING to do with the lies on the graph. My screen print is the data of the two years side by side. Are you that inept, that you cannot admit yet another pack of lies?
     
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    Being higher is not ordinary.

    That's the whole point. The death rate is higher in 2021 than it was in 2020 before the vaccines began.

    Maybe I'm missing something but I see a higher death rate in 2021 which is evidence (not proof) that the vaccine is causing deaths.

    Tell me what I'm missing.
     
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    What the hell are you talking about!? The figures for both years show up and down in no correlation with the vaccination period. Are you really that clueless you can't even see this? The beginning of the year had more deaths. The actual percentage "increase" on the cherry picked section is around 38%, but take another section early in the year and it is even more BEFORE vaccines! As I said, none of these weekly figures are out of the ordinary.

    NO IT IS NOT! The figures for 15-19 year olds is no different to before the vaccines. God this is like pulling teeth. You have not the slightest clue about statistics. Add it to all the other fields of research that you are totally useless at.

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    From that stupid link:
    "So what has suddenly increased the mortality rate since June in 15-19 year-olds, but not in younger children? It coincided with the rollout of vaccines,"

    Yet we can clearly see that prior to week 29/30 the death rate shows no disparity, in fact it is slightly more BEFORE rollout!

    Ya think!?

    The article/claim quite specifically shows when the vaccines began and there is no increase! It is just higher for that period than 2020, but it is also higher for preceding periods before the damn vaccine. The death rate for 2021 - THE WHOLE YEAR - is higher. Not significantly though and anyway and covid-19 certainly could make this small increase!

    It's easier to tell you what you aren't missing!
     
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    The second and fourth lines are the number of deaths, is that right? I took my calculator and added up both lines. I got 472 for the top line and 558 for the bottom line. That's an increase of 18.2 % if I'm not mistaken.

    That leads to this.
    https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/30/dea...-by-47-percent-since-covid-vaccination-began/

    I don't see that chart of yours anywhere. Like I said before, copy and paste it and post the link to the page where you got it.

    I don't see either one separately either. Please copy and paste them with some lines above and below them so that I can do a page search.
     
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    Now get your damn calculator out and do the area in green 2021 - vaccine introduced, and the same number of weeks (eight) before it was introduced! No change!

    It's like educating a small child. Wait for the penny to drop or wait for this joker to go into evasion mode.

    Well duh! Something you should have checked immediately like a normal person would. Verify the source then check their claims. The basic scientific method that you spam about but never employ.

    That is because it is my damn chart!

    I created it from the two links referenced on the batshit website referenced on line 1! The expose - the irony.

    Useless. Totally and utterly useless. Both these lying websites use data from the same source. 2021 and 2020 deaths. The two lines for overall 15-19 deaths. I compared them together. FROM THAT LINK. READ IT!

    Your credibility was never above zero, see if you can push it up a notch by admitting your sources are lying. You won't do that. It will be some clown comment about debunker food! Or your usual goto spam about it not making all the other batshit go away!
     
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    I got 96 for the 2020 line in green and 131 for the 2021 line in green. That's a 37% increase. I can't understand why you're saying there's no change. Explain to me what you think I'm missing.
     
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    It's pretty late here and I'm sleepy so you have to forgive me.

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    In the 2020 week row from 22 to 29 I got 73. From 30 to 37 I got 96. That's an increase.

    In the 2021 week row 22 to 29 I got 131. From 30 to 37 I got 131 again. I don't see what that proves.

    Why don't you do the calculations in a very clear manner? That will settle the whole thing.
     
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    Why are you comparing 2021 to 2020?! In the UK, relaxed covid-19 restrictions mean the small increase is irrelevant and could easily be related to more contact or just as easily be just a normal trend. BUT - You yourself have just proven the first lie. Go back and view their percentage claim for that period!

    No. Your problem is nothing to do with lack of sleep, you just don't understand extremely simple things.

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    What!? Why the hell are you doing this for 2020? The claim is that the vaccines for young people from week 30 in 2021 affected the death toll by 48% more(you yourself showed it was 37%). But even so, as you can see, any lying clown could take the 2020 figures and make the same damn claim. They are not relevant.

    Seriously? I have explained it to you in painfully simple language that young children would understand!

    1. The green area shows vaccine rollout.
    2. The 8 weeks before there are no vaccines.
    3. The two totals are the same!
    4. There is no UPWARD trend.

    If you are simply playing dumb on this, you are doing a very good job. It is so stunningly obvious that there is no spike. The makers of that website and the one referenced are lying frauds, taking data and cherry picking, then making bullshit claims by omission! Not one conspiracy "researcher" will check their data, certainly not you!

    Claim: So what has suddenly increased the mortality rate since June in 15-19 year-olds, but not in younger children? It coincided with the rollout of vaccines, which are known to cause rare but serious side-effects in young people, especially myocarditis (heart inflammation).

    Fact: Week 24 (June 15) to current gives a total of 232 deaths - 14 weeks. Week 1 to 14 gives a total of 218 deaths. A totally insignificant 6% change!
    But let's take 14 weeks in 2020 from week 1 to week 14 - 222 deaths - 4%.

    Totally meaningless cherry picked bullshit. Admit it, try to gain a semblance of credibility. You won't do that. It will be some clown comment about debunker food! Or your usual goto spam about it not making all the other batshit go away!
     
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    The point of the articles is that the time period in 2020 has fewer deaths than the same time period in 2021. That means there's an increase. Comparing a time with the period just before it doesn't prove anything. You seem to trying to muddy the waters to confuse people.
     
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    That is a lie! The point is that the period they quote as vaccine rollout has resulted in a significant increase in deaths!

    Cherry picking bullshit. If you you compared that 8 week slot to 2020 week 4 to 11 there are 147 deaths a DECREASE.

    And you are doing the perfect job of playing dumb.

    The claim is that vaccine rollout increased deaths. The same period before the rollout shows ZERO increase. One would have to be colossally stupid not to understand that or wilfully ignorant.

    "People" aren't confused, they understand data manipulation and lies. You however seem to revel in it and defend it at all costs. There is no increase in the death rate after vaccine rollout. Period. It is dishonest in the extreme to take a direct 8 week slot and compare it to a previous year and pass this off as a fact, when comparing it to a different 8 week slot has the OPPOSITE result!
     
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    The rollout is the beginning. I takes while before a siginificant number of people get jabbed. To get a realistic idea of the effect of the jab, a time before the rollout has to be compared with the same time after the rollout a year later. The time after the rollout should be a few months. This is just common sense.

    Look at the four graphs on this page.
    https://humansarefree.com/2021/10/deaths-among-teenagers-up-56-since-vaccine-roll-out-began.html

    Comparing the death rate during the first few months after the rollout with the few months just before the rollout won't tell you the difference in the death rates. You seem to be trying to confuse everybody.
     
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    Correct and it began pretty much as your batshit website said it did.

    Yet you post batshit that suggests already that the increase in deaths is caused by the damn vaccine!

    What the hell bullshit is that? Even if you did that it is still moronic statistical manipulation since week on week figures vary dramatically and hence year on year.

    So why the hell are you posting a stupid claim that is provably bullshit when the main rollout is only a couple of months old!

    YOUR idiotic website gave the timeframe and said it showed an increase from last year, but so did the time frame BEFORE the rollout. How stupid does one have to be to not understand this!

    MORONIC! It will tell you that there is no dramatic upturn!

    Nobody is confused - you are playing dumb and doing a perfect job of it. The death rates from the rollout are LESS than the death rates in the same time span from January onwards 2020! The death rates from the rollout are the same as just before.

    For you to defend this proven batshit is beneath contempt.
     
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    The time frame before the rollout is exactly what we want to compare to that same time the next year when a lot of people have had the jab. That will show us the difference in the death rates. You seem to be just trying to muddy the waters to confuse everybody.
     
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    For god's sake man, read your own damn claim! YOU claim significant raised death rates during rollout, There was none. Period.

    I have proven it. Now to get out of admitting it, you are posting some idiotic claim that disputes the batshit you already posted!

    Already done. The timeframe YOU posted about says the death rate has climbed. The time frame just before proves it hasn't. You lack the integrity to admit your gullible and foolish error.

    Repeating that crappy cut and paste spam line doesn't make it accurate. Nobody is confused - you are playing dumb and doing a perfect job of it. The death rates from the rollout are LESS than the death rates in the same time span from January onwards 2020! The death rates from the rollout are the same as just before.

    For you to defend this proven batshit is beneath contempt.
     
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    I never said that and I never thought that.

    https://humansarefree.com/2021/10/o...ave-increased-since-the-covid-19-vaccine.html
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    The 2020 edition of ‘Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales’, which can be downloaded here, and accessed on the ONS website here, shows that between the week ending 26th June and the week ending 18th September 2020, a total of 148 deaths occurred among 15 – 19-year-olds.

    Whereas the 2021 editions of ‘Deaths registered weekly in England and Wales, which can be downloaded here, and accessed on the ONS website here, shows that between the week ending 25th June 2021 and the week ending 17th September 2021, a total of 217 deaths occurred among 15 – 19-year-olds.

    This shows that the number of deaths between June 19th 2021 and September 17th 2021 among teens aged 15 and over were 47% higher than the number of deaths in this age group during the same period in 2020, and the increase in deaths began at precisely the same time teens started receiving the Covid-19 vaccine.
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    It's very simple.

    This time period is before the rollout when nobody was vaccinated.
    26th June and the week ending 18th September 2020

    This is the same time period the following year when a lot of people were vaccinated.
    the week ending 25th June 2021 and the week ending 17th September 2021

    The general death rate is higher in the 2021 period which implies that the vaccine is causing people to die.

    This is evidence – not conclusive proof – that the vaccine is killing people. Nothing you've said shows this to be wrong. Nothing you've said makes any sense at all.
     
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    Well, they aren't doing a very good job of killing off the population if that is their intent. COVID has only killed 0.2% of the U.S. population. Less than half of a half of a single percent. Not exactly what I'd call a world-ending pandemic...
     
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    I can't even point out the problem, the forum doesn't allow insults. You are not clever enough to understand the real simple thing! Small children understand this.


    Idiotic. If you take the same year difference from 2021 to 2020, between the period BEFORE rollout you get an even bigger difference, PROVING that the vaccine is not the cause of the yearly variation. Notwithstanding that there is NO INCREASE from 8 weeks before to the 8 weeks of the damn rollout!


    It's evidence that you have no integrity. You are most certainly not a truth seeker. You are a terminally gullible defender of batshit at all costs!

    The sheer unadulterated irony. From a person who excels at failure!
     
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