Dismiss Notice
Thanks for being a member of our community. Please donate toward site expenses if you can.

Minnesota police shoot, kill man after traffic stop incident

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Space_Time, Apr 11, 2021.

Page 6 of 16
  1. HockeyDad

    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2019
    Messages:
    5,314
    Likes Received:
    6,899
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Watch the video. The woman cop clearly thought she had a taser in her hand.... she was yelling taser taser taser to get her male partner out of the way and right after she shot she exclaimed "****" indicating that she did not know she had a gun.

    Here is another woman cop doing the exact same thing not two years ago.


    And here is a woman cop who had the gun taken from her and was shot with it.


    One of the funniest videos I have seen on youtube featured a woman cop nearly shooting her partner in the head while he was handcuffing a suspect. Youtube has deepsixed that one even though it was there for like 8 years.
     
    HockeyDad, Apr 12, 2021
    #126
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,042
    Likes Received:
    39,232
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And the City Manager says the officer has due process and there should be due process and gets fired for saying so.

    Brooklyn Center mayor takes on oversight of police department, fires city manager
    City leaders appeared poised to fire the police chief after the police killing of a 20-year-old Black man Sunday.

    "At a virtual council workshop, Council Member Kris Lawrence-Anderson said she voted to remove the city manager because she feared for her property and retalitaiton by protestors if she had voted to keep him.

    "He was doing a great job. I respect him dearly," she said. "I didn't want repercussions at a personal level.""

    https://www.startribune.com/brookly...lice-department-fires-city-manager/600045002/
     
    Bluesguy, Apr 12, 2021
    #127
  3. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,042
    Likes Received:
    39,232
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You are very brave to post that and as a white person I would be receiving an assortment of smears and ad homine were I to do so. And that is unfortunate because THAT is exactly what we must face in order to even start to try and make changes in those areas. We can't have honest civil discussions. It all has to be couched as racism first, THAT is the major cause and that is the only thing we will address!!

    I worked for three years on the South Side of Chicago. I was a manager and hired and fired people. It was heartbreaking to hire someone especially a young person who wanted to learn something and advance themselves be talked down to and almost threatened for "sucking up to the man". The attitude, which the union didn't help, of we're only going to do what we have to do to keep our job. And then the crime and theft including employee theft, one of the biggest when I was there was an inside job. Getting calls on Monday mornings that Joe couldn't come in he got shot or stabbed or even arrested over the weekend pretty routine. About two years after I left they closed that plant which employed about 75 people and move out to the western suburbs it had gotten so bad. All those jobs gone, that tax base gone.
     
    Bluesguy, Apr 12, 2021
    #128
    JET3534 likes this.
  4. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,042
    Likes Received:
    39,232
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    In almost ALL the incidences it is the person being arrested and taken into custody who resist that arrest and refuse the lawful commands of the police. But it is the police officers fault.
     
    Bluesguy, Apr 12, 2021
    #129
    yabberefugee likes this.
  5. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2015
    Messages:
    12,487
    Likes Received:
    1,975
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Is that a threat:
     
    Space_Time, Apr 12, 2021
    #130
  6. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,135
    Likes Received:
    4,905
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What'd you've said here is correct and unfortunately so. That's why I try to make a point to comment on discussions dealing with race. I am fully aware that I can say things about certain topics that others "can't" and I for one think that's absolutely stupid. But since we've created a new society to where I am the "protected class" I've decided to use my "protected" status against itself whenever I can. It actually works itself out fairly well which I will admit is pretty funny to me.

    Nobody else is "allowed" to criticize or even speak factually about the black community anymore so since I'm black I can criticize and speak about the black community and nobody is allowed to criticize me for it because I'm black...

    It's the dumbest mental gymnastics game I've seen in my adult lifetime. If society is serious about helping the black community then an honest discussion about the problems plaguing the black community need to be discussed. I managed to live my entire life as a black male in America and manage to never have so much as an uncomfortable altercation with the police. And I'm doing very well for myself in a professional career to where people straighten up when I walk in a room and call me Sir.

    I'm not taking a stance on this particular OP as to whether the cop was right or wrong or justified or not. What I'm saying is I wouldn't have given the cop the opportunity to accidently shoot me while thinking they were trying to taze me because I wouldn't have run from the cops...I'm not apologizing for the cop's behavior, I'm not apologizing for the man's behavior. I'm just saying I wouldn't behave like that. Why? Because there is a difference between me and the majority of other black people living in America...

    And if it offends anybody to hear me say that then just know that it genuinely offends me more to have to say it.
     
    Nightmare515, Apr 12, 2021
    #131
  7. dgrichards

    dgrichards Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2020
    Messages:
    1,279
    Likes Received:
    536
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Female officer allegedly aimed to use tazer and used service weapon by mistake. Also, armed service lieutenant in uniform on the way to work pulled over for driving car which he had just purchased that had dealer plates and not permanent metal license plate. Apparently pulled over for driving while black, pulled from car and had the crap beat out of him. Again in Minneapolis.
     
    dgrichards, Apr 12, 2021
    #132
  8. dgrichards

    dgrichards Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2020
    Messages:
    1,279
    Likes Received:
    536
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Sorry, Va., not Mn. Officer was fired only after video went viral. And how in the hell do you confuse a tazer with your service weapon. Very different configuration and very different weight.
     
    dgrichards, Apr 12, 2021
    #133
  9. HockeyDad

    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2019
    Messages:
    5,314
    Likes Received:
    6,899
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Or as we like to call it Detroit 2.0. It is utterly shocking to see how one of the jewels of the Midwest was destroyed in two decades. There is no coming back from this, Minneapolis is completely finished. It will be 3rd world within the next decade.

    Import the 3rd world, don't educate them and then blame white people... a time tested formula to establish Democratic supremacy. 80% of the school population is POC and 60% of them are failing.... wait until the bill comes due to society in 10 years. The only thing these kids are being prepared for is a life of crime or a life on welfare.
    upload_2021-4-12_20-14-32.png
     
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2021
    HockeyDad, Apr 12, 2021
    #134
  10. dgrichards

    dgrichards Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2020
    Messages:
    1,279
    Likes Received:
    536
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    How, in the name of God, did you get that from my simple question. What a marvelous invention that is.
     
    dgrichards, Apr 12, 2021
    #135
  11. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,042
    Likes Received:
    39,232
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What are the protest turning into riots about? They were attempting to arrest someone one on an outstanding weapons charge, get him off the street and into custody because he failed to appear. HE TRIED TO ESCAPE. And then a tragic accident happened. When you struggle with the police bad things can happen and even on accident when force is having to be used. It was NOT intentional.

    So why are they committing crimes in the streets and how does stealing liquor and clothes and destroying property make things better?
     
    Bluesguy, Apr 12, 2021
    #136
  12. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,042
    Likes Received:
    39,232
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    In the heat of the moment she OBVIOUSLY did. It was an accident.
     
    Bluesguy, Apr 12, 2021
    #137
  13. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2015
    Messages:
    71,002
    Likes Received:
    90,738
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The early Christmas shopping has started.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art....html#comments

    Riot Scene at Brooklyn Center MN:

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...64554031484931


    FootLocker Looted:

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...62691261378564


    Brooklyn Center MN Looted:

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...60333332680705


    Multiple storefronts looted and smashed at Brooklyn Center Shingle Creek Crossing near Walmart:

    https://twitter.com/RebsBrannon/stat...73405959045120


    GameStop Looted:

    https://twitter.com/RebsBrannon/stat...70326270361604


    People dancing and celebrating in front of police outside looted stores:

    https://twitter.com/RebsBrannon/stat...81324310102016


    Liquor Store Looted:

    https://twitter.com/TCReporter/statu...75345103212548


    Hair Plus Wigs Beauty Inc. Looted:

    https://twitter.com/TCReporter/statu...60766524637186
     
    Steve N, Apr 12, 2021
    #138
    Pollycy likes this.
  14. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    78,947
    Likes Received:
    19,952
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    How does society go about changing that culture?

    How did places like that, get that culture in the 1st place?
     
    dairyair, Apr 12, 2021
    #139
    Pollycy likes this.
  15. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,135
    Likes Received:
    4,905
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Fix the family structure. I've said this before on this forum and I'll say it again. The abolition of the nuclear family and the introduction of the welfare system was more detrimental to the black community than Jim Crow.

    What made me different than all of my other little friends who were absolute monsters growing up? I had a father. A father who if I were to tell I'm going outside to play with this or that kid he'd grabbed me by the back of the head and say no the hell you're not. And also did things like inform me of how it would not be in the best interest of my personal health if I ever decided to mosey my little ass back into his house after curfew ever again. From the day I was able to talk as a toddler I was taught to say please and thank you, yes sir no sir, yes ma'am no ma'am, etc. I was taught since the day I could talk how to speak grammatically correct english "because that yo boy sounding hoodlum nonsense isn't tolerated in my house". Respect for authority, respect for adults, all adults are called Mr or Ms not just by their first name nonsense like a lot of kids are being taught nowadays. Little seemingly insignificant things such as always put the money in the hand of the cashier, never on the counter because thats rude. If someone asks you how you are doing then you respond and then subsequently ask them how they are doing as well in return. Don't blast your music at jet engine decibels cruising down the street because that's rude and not everyone wants to hear your music. Pull your damn pants up. Etc. I could go on for days. Oh yeah and let me come home with a bad report card.....

    Just normal respectable how to be a proper human being in a civilized society type stuff. The stuff that was completely unfair because it's not fair that all my friends get to go out and do whatever they want and roam the streets at all hours and have fun and be kids and I don't. My best friend across the alleyway got to do whatever he wanted and had all the fun. Not me because my of damn dad and his stupid rules. He would always love saying "I'm not your friend, I'm your father". Yeah whatever...

    Well guess what. Fast forward to today and my best friend across the alleyway is dead, shot in the head a few decades ago. My other friend is currently serving a 20 year sentence in a maximum security prison. Meanwhile I'm sitting in my 3 bedroom house in the middle of peaceful nowhere earning a 6 figure paycheck as a professional.

    Damn Dad and your stupid rules.....Thank You

    The society that creates the type of people who so often fall victim to stuff like this OP is the result of the lack of family structure. Unfortunately many of the people from these inner city hellholes simply get older, they are not raised. 76% of black children are born out of wedlock, the majority of whom grow up in these types of places and left to their own devices. It's a viscous cycle. If you grow up in a place that teaches you to hate the police then you likely aren't going to be very cooperative with the police. If you aren't cooperative with the police then they police tend to be more aggressive towards you. Then everyone else living there sees the police being aggressive towards people so then they hate the police and are aggressive towards the police. Then the police know that these types of people tend to be more aggressive towards them and treat them more harshly. And the people see them treating people more harshly and the cycle repeats and never ends.
     
    Nightmare515, Apr 12, 2021
    #140
    truth and justice likes this.
  16. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,366
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    JET3534, Apr 12, 2021
    #141
    yabberefugee likes this.
  17. Cougarbear

    Cougarbear Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2019
    Messages:
    2,450
    Likes Received:
    1,146
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Because I know your intent.
     
    Cougarbear, Apr 12, 2021
    #142
  18. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    78,947
    Likes Received:
    19,952
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What happened to all those fathers?
    Surely it can't be welfare all by itself?
     
    dairyair, Apr 12, 2021
    #143
  19. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,740
    Likes Received:
    9,028
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    When government pays for their birth control, or abortion, and provides for their housing AND FOOD with a stipend for each child they produce, they figure out they don't need a husband.....they can just have "boyfriends'. That was LBJ and his "Great Society". Democrats figured it would hold them on the Government Plantation and by and large it has. LBJ was quoted as saying "I'll have those N(*&^%$ voting Democrat for 200 years!
     
    yabberefugee, Apr 12, 2021
    #144
  20. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,135
    Likes Received:
    4,905
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Some were locked up, some are the standard lowlifes who get someone pregnant and run, some women don't want them around, etc. It's a complex issue and a cultural one as well. The problem was exacerbated when the NEED for a father in the home was diminished. Some will argue that was a positive thing, better for women independence, I don't believe it so. Traditionally the father was almost a requirement if you wanted to start a family both culturally and financially. It wasn't exactly culturally "acceptable" to be a single mother back in the day unless your husband died or something and the father was traditionally the bread maker so you almost couldn't do it alone. For better or for worse welfare allowed it to be possible to raise children as a single parent. And as time when on society also began to gradually allow it culturally acceptable to be a single parent. Fast forward to today and not only is it perfectly normal it IS the norm. It's become rare to actually have both of your parents in the black community.

    A father is more than just a bread maker he's key to helping raise the child especially in these urban ghettos full of negative outside influences. Children, especially little boys, are going to seek out role models by default. If they don't have a father they're going to look up to SOMEBODY, and when the majority of those around you are gangsters and drug dealers then that's who you are looking up to and that's probably what you're going to be. That's what I would have been if I didn't have a better role model or at the very least someone to discipline me and not let me interact with those types of people.
     
    Nightmare515, Apr 12, 2021
    #145
    Pred and yabberefugee like this.
  21. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    78,947
    Likes Received:
    19,952
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So, why did black fathers leave and not white fathers?
    Welfare is available to all who are poor.
    There are low life white fathers as well.
    Why did this affect black families far more than white families?
     
    dairyair, Apr 12, 2021
    #146
  22. dgrichards

    dgrichards Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2020
    Messages:
    1,279
    Likes Received:
    536
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I don't care what the circumstanced are, you don't get to kill someone and say oopsie!
     
    dgrichards, Apr 12, 2021
    #147
    JET3534 likes this.
  23. ChoppedLiver

    ChoppedLiver Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2015
    Messages:
    5,703
    Likes Received:
    2,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This reminds me of another police shooting incident(s) where the black person in question would still be alive and well if s/he would have just not shot at/fought with/ran from/got "upset" with (<<<Pick one [or more]) the police.

    Anyone else reminded of such an incident(S)???

    Anyone have a list of this sort of thing(S) happening in the past?
     
    ChoppedLiver, Apr 12, 2021
    #148
  24. dgrichards

    dgrichards Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2020
    Messages:
    1,279
    Likes Received:
    536
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And how, pray tell, did you come to that thoroughly ridiculous conclusion?
     
    dgrichards, Apr 12, 2021
    #149
  25. Par10

    Par10 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2019
    Messages:
    4,342
    Likes Received:
    3,825
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That's not really a fair response. Of course no one thinks that the death penalty is appropriate. It is a valid question though if anyone wants to seriously fix the problems that face the black community.
    Overall, police shoot unarmed black people about the same percentage as they shoot unarmed white people when using the ratio of shooting/encounter and that ratio is less than 0.1%. If you are honestly wanting to fix the problem, then there are two ways to do it. You can make the number of mistaken shootings smaller (which is what everyone is focused on). Or you can just lower the times you encounter police. Personally, I don't drive without a license plate. I don't have a warrant, I don't pass fake $20 bills. Those kind of things increase the chances that you are going to be talking to police. Now, when you do talk to police, don't pick up a rock, don't sit in your car when they tell you to get out, just do what they ask and the overwhelming odds are in your favor of going home alive and well.

    Conversely, you can talk back and be an a**hole and take your chances. If you truly want to be an a**hole and show the world how you were right and the cop was wrong, tell it to the judge later in a safe environment.

    It's sad that this person got shot. It didn't have to happen.
     
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2021
    Par10, Apr 12, 2021
    #150
Page 6 of 16

Share This Page