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Minnesota Trump Supporter Staged BLM/Antifa Crime: Feds

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  1. Jiminy

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    Minnesota Trump Supporter Staged BLM/Antifa Crime: Feds
    Minnesota Trump Supporter Staged BLM/Antifa Crime: Feds (msn.com)
    A Donald Trump supporter from Brooklyn Center is accused of faking a politically-motivated arson at his own property and filing false insurance claims.

    Like a mentor, like a follower, Denis Molla learned from Crooked Donnie Trump: GRIFTING: Molla received more than $17,000 from individual donors who sent their money to him using GoFundMe.

    Again like his mentor, Molla learned from the Wannabee Dictator Donnie Trump: MISDIRECTION. The vast majority of violence and threats of violence come from the far-right
    radicals and bigots, but a right-wing extremist such as Trump wants people to believe that is not true by blaming BLM/Antifa for the crimes that Trump and his supporters are actually committing, ie January 6, 2021.

    How Pro-Trump Forces Pushed a Lie About Antifa at the Capitol Riot
    On social media, on cable networks and even in the halls of Congress, supporters of Donald J. Trump tried to rewrite history in real-time, pushing the fiction that left-wing agitators were to blame for the violence on Jan. 6.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/01/us/politics/antifa-conspiracy-capitol-riot.html
     
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    No wayyyyyyy! Fake newsssssss!!! Most Trumpers are the true definition of Patriots! The new definition......BTW.

    They spelt his surname wrong too, it's MUlla :)
     
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    People like their 15 minutes of fame, I guess. People will be idiots.

    Claiming this had anything to do with Trump is a bit of a reach, but if it makes you feel better to believe that, oh well.
     
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    I don't think he was saying it had to do with Trump, but the idea of blaming someone else for your misfortunes is something Trump does on a daily basis, and the guy was a Trump supporter, so they are somewhat related.
    It's possible that someone could get the idea from Trump, but to extend it out that Trump caused it would be a reach too far.
    It's why I believe it's important for a true leader to have integrity, as an example.
    It isn't too much of a stretch to say the opposite is true, that if a leader doesn't have integrity, then their followers tend to lack such substance themselves.
     
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    Since blm was mentioned, they grifted money by the millions, caused billions in damages, looting and arson, and murdered civilians and cops. If law enforcement can chase this guy then they can chase blm.
     
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    I guess it would also depend on the definition of 'follower'. While some people are weak and can only function when told specifically what to do and what to think, in the case of political issues, one can vote for someone, and not be a 'follower'.

    It also brings up the 'integrity' statement. Personally, pretty much most modern day political figures are far from perfect, and likely have committed some sort of moral trespass. He who has not sinned can cast the first stone, and I know that won't be me, because I am human.
     
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    Yes. You can tell a lot about a person by the people (or monster) they admire.

    /smdh

    Cue the apologists, justifying, excusing, rationalizing, deflecting hate brigade...3, 2...
     
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    You make some good points.
    I try really hard to be impartial, to deal with things mentally from a neutral position. Being an automation technician for 35 years, and now a teacher, it is important to do so.
    So I'll just share my view: the vast majority of Trump supporters are followers. That's my opinion. Not hating on them, just an observation.
    I could even extend that to the vast majority of Fox news watchers, too.
    And, btw, anyone who religiously watches the 24/7 news cycles can fall into that, regardless of party affiliation.
    And I doubt whether there is a big difference in today's politicians and pre modern era as far as integrity. I think it was easier to hide it back in the day.
     
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    Totally...
    www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/family-says-home-was-firebombed-over-trump-2020-flags.579029/

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rump-2020-flags.579029/page-2#post-1072082287

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rump-2020-flags.579029/page-4#post-1073583540
     
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    I resent theses kind of fake attacks, To jail with them
     
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    I pretty much agree with your post, but this isn't so much about Trump, but it does highlight the current political animosity to blame the other side.

    I.e., look at the current threads, where single incidents that have nothing to do with politics, are deliberately made to associate bad behavior with political party.
     
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    The 'supporters' would also have to be defined, to get a true picture. Is someone who voted for him in 2016 a supporter? Is someone who voted for him in 2020 a supporter? Or were they just responding in the 'anyone but' column?

    I am independent, with some Conservative leanings on some subjects, and Liberal on others. Each case on it's own merits.
     
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    You are, unfortunately, correct. I vehemently despise paintbrushes, or attempts to label a group based on the actions of one, regardless of political affiliation.
     
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    Well, to a degree, voting for someone does make one a supporter, but some may be voting against the other candidate. For example, I voted for Clinton in 2016, but I wouldn't call myself a Clinton supporter. I voted for her because I thought Trump would be worse for the country than Trump. We'll hopefully never know the answer to that, but Trump did disappoint me.
    But, I was referring to some of the hard core supporters, which there are quite a few out there. All you have to do is read these posts for awhile,
     
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    No biggy, Jiminy..
    It's ALL GOOD...:handshake:
     
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    How many of those arsons and riots were Trump supporters masquerading as BLM? Youvhave to wonder after reading this article.
     
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    Reminds me of a couple nooses here and there... One hopes he gets the full treatment of the law.
     
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    A TON!
    90 to 100% of anything involving Andy Ngo is staged False Flag BS...
     
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    Nice!!! Since there are multiple reports of white nationalists et al being agent provocateur's and some went to the big house if memory serves. There is even video....
     
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    I don't honestly see any reason why they have to hide it. Apparently, some people are cool with *anything* their candidate of choice chooses to do.

    It baffles me because Trump has a tendency to deny everything. I always think "Does he not know we live in an age with photographs, cameras, sound recorders?" I mean how can someone deny something that is already plastered everywhere?

    And, given the division over the ethical, moral and legal obligations relative to the Capitol riot, it's easy to see why opposing political parties could just lie and deny. I mean, everyone on the planet (outside NK) saw the Capitol riot but some people shrug it off. His historial revision of that day would have been even easier to sell to one's constituents without any photographic or sound records anywhere to consult.
     
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    Just click on the "report" button and ask the mods to delete it, if you wish.
     
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