Missiles Launched From Iran Hit ISIS Terrorist Bases in Syria

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  1. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    The neocon scourge had no business in Iraq or Syria. So yes, the whole **** storm is their doing.
     
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    So, in your mind, the fact that ISIS controls a major city there is not a big deal? It's not a big deal when terrorists form a state, with millions to spend, tanks, and fighter jets, etc.? Ok then, I can see you are not willing to be reasonable. Carry on then.
     
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    If we didn't **** it up to begin with,...........
     
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    How did the US **** up Syria, before ISIS arrived, in your mind? You mean by Obama failing to negotiate a stay of forces agreement in Iraq, that directly lead to the creating of ISIS?
     
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    "Maybe" it is their sovereign right to do so.

    The CIA admitted they planned and were in charge of the coup all the way to bribe who ever was needed to do so. So that makes the US completely responsible for installing a fascist murderous dictator by ousting an elected government. All hail the worlds biggest terrorists.
     
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    Sounds like an accident. Barry's boys would never strike their own. Sounds fishy.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's ignoring the fact that that a majority of politicians agreed that Saddam Hussein had WMD, voted to support George Bush and that 28 other countries were involved. The problems began after there was stability in Iraq and Obama decided to then, against all advice, pull the troops. The dead and suffering are in his hands.
     
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    I dont forsee America using nukes on iran as long as iran is not capable using nukes itself

    But I cant speak for Israel and the Saudi's

    Obama set the world on a nuclear collision course and no one knows how this will end
     
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    It may be that Trump is tearing a page out of Nixon's playbook when he visited Red China and drew a wedge between them and the USSR. Iran doesn't want to be isolated and is now making moves to alter their political course. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/21/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-iran-donald-trump.html
     
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    They were idiot tools.
    And so what anyway?
    He wasn't doing jack ****.
    We have WMDs. Who has the right to invade us?
     
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    We brought them there
     
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    The british had a concession till 1997
     
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    "Maybe" it is their sovereign right to do so.
     
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    because the US illegally invaded Iraq, and removed the entire law and order mechanism, and deliberately pushed the country in total anarchy, to give ISIS all the chances it needed to take root. It became so successful they branched out to Syria.
     
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    I wait for sanctions to be placed on Saudi Arabia if they are ever in the least bit suspected of trying to develop a nuclear weapon - now why do I think that the US would veto any sanctions on Saudi Arabia? What say you?
     
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    True story about a fake bomb.

    Read whatever you will into it.
    For me it's funny.

    With regards Americans and Iranians not being able to make peace after all this time and America and North Korea the same...

    What do you want me to tell you? There is some irony here? OK if you say so.
    All I see is prejudice.
     
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    No

    The British had a contract that the iranians broke
     
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    The saudi's are our alllies and we will not support sanctions for something that is forced on them by the iranians
     
  19. Iranian Monitor

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    The issue is not about your views on various religions, and how you or I would consider them relative to one another. We were talking about terrorism against Americans and the classification that fits that threat.

    And "Christians" don't mind being lump together so long as being lumped together on an issue that unites them with other Christians, not something that separates many of them from one another.
     
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    You might be right about Obama unwittingly helping set us on a nuclear collision course, but for reasons in opposite of what you are trying to peddle. The fact is Iran was doing fine in terms of its nuclear program, and more broadly, the lack of a genuinely united front to make any sanctions and other hostile against Iran cause more than help ratchet tensions and keep oil prices up, in the process actually helping (not hurting) Iran's economy. Regrettably, however, once Obama was able to work with the EU and others to put together the sanctions regime imposed on Iran, Iran did have to capitulate in agreeing to the nuclear agreement. In doing so, giving up its surge capacity and dismantling a good part of its nuclear program on the promise of lifting of sanctions, only to find the other side unwilling to genuinely abide by its side of the bargain. Otherwise, very clearly, if Iran actually had nuclear weapons, the Israelis wouldn't be inclined to even think about using nukes against Iran.
    As for Wahhabi Arabia, their nuclear umbrella is in Pakistan. Otherwise, they aren't going to be housing nukes on the Arabian peninsula.
     
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    If iran has nuclear weapons the mullahs will use them

    Obama was incapable of dealing with iran because he was getting bad advice from vallerie jarred

    But instead of loosening sanctions the US should have tightened the noose around iran
     
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    Your comments lack any foundation on any point you mention. If Iran was suicidal, it already has plenty of weapons to use to unleash on its enemies. And without Obama's ability to bring together various countries to work against Iran, the US wouldn't be able to get the nuclear deal it got. Instead, the US would be where it was under Bush, where America's "Israel first" faction were pushing the US to war with Iran but the American military realizing their were no good military options to pursue.
     
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    I don;t think we were necessarily restricting ourselves to Islamic terrorism against Americans. This Islamism is going and is a very serious international problem. No one is too interested in the particular sect of Islam but rather the troubles within Islam itself.

    Your using an argument similar to that used during the Cold War when thousands of murders were announced, or some other atrocity named, leftists would argue that they were committed by Trotskyites or Leninists, Stalinists, or any combination thereof, but people understood that they were still all Communists. And it's still all Muslims.

    I'd need an example.. There are many beliefs within Christianity, and many disagree with each other, but it has never reached the frenzy we find going on within Islam.
     
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    Of course you are not restricting yourself to terrorism against Americans. That is a bogus excuse. America is on the path of PNAC and its policies on the issue are driven and, at the very least, coordinated with Israel and the pro Israel lobby. In this equation, Israeli lives and Israeli interests overtake American lives and American interests. You can believe or pretend otherwise, but that is how it is.
     
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    You may be overestimating the strength of Iran's military forces.

    Recall that Iran fought an eight year battle with Iraq and it came out a draw. The US led Coalition found Saddam hiding in a rabbit hole a couple of weeks after the war began.
     

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