>>MOD WARNING<< Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Dead

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  1. struth

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    Of course the GOP recognizes the seat on the bench does not belong to Justice Ginsberg and the American people, in particular in a contested election year where the Dems have being stacking up their legal team and promised not to concede the election under any circumstances we need a full Court.
     
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    What "commie agenda"? Sounds like typical right wing hyperbolic rhetoric to me. And since when did anyone need to "import" illegals? Seems like there are plenty coming here without the need to recruit them.

    They don't vote. Anything you've been told about illegals voting in national elections is pure horse pucky meant to scare you into thinking that you must support Trump and his reformed Republican party. It seems to be working in your case.
     
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    1) Commie Agenda...AKA the Biden/Sander Manifesto: https://joebiden.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/UNITY-TASK-FORCE-RECOMMENDATIONS.pdf

    WJe have seen a Pact like these two since Lenin and Stalin

    2) and yes...illegals do vote: https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/19-foreign-nationals-indicted-illegally-voting-2016-elections
     
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    And democrats inventing mythical rape charges for every prospective Republican nominee or trying to change the number of justices so they can pack the court is not a desperate attempt to hold onto power?
     
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    I agree we are a failing Republic. The fault is not the Presidents, Congress or the Courts as much as it is "We the people". We have allowed all branches to erode our rights because we have been too lazy to read the Constitution and understand what it really means. RGB was a great legal jurist but she was a activist judge and based on her opinions on what she believed; not on what the Constitution meant. This is not unusual. When it comes to the Electoral College it was the most contentious part of the drafting of the Constitution. Hamilton and the Federalists (who really were anti-Federalists as they believed in a Monarchy style of government) and Jefferson and the Anti-Federalists (who were really Federalists) knowing that to get the Constitution ratified by the states and excepted by the people they would have to device a system that would satisfy most. They came up with the Electoral College which gave each State 2 votes and 1 vote for each number of Representatives. Each state set it's own rules on how to elect Electors. Sometimes Electors don't vote the way the majority of their state voted . This was the way it was set up to protect minority rights of the smaller states. Also at that time they needed 9 of the 13 States to ratify.
     
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    So, a Democratic power play by another name. Naked power play?! I guess you meant Naked Power.

    Naked power is the power to exercise rights over a person or a thing without having a corresponding interest in the well-being or continuation of that person or thing. For instance, power exercised on a trust without any corresponding interest.
     
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    Here is why getting a nominee chosen and confirmed is so IMPERATIVE.

    There is an election in 45 days and it is going to be a fiasco with all the untested means put in place by the Democrats and there be lawsuit after lawsuit and lower judges injecting themselves and trying to change the rules and we need a FULL compliment of SCOTUS justices in order to be able to make quick and decisive decisions. We can't have a 8 member even number it is critical that we have an odd number so we don't end up in ties.

    So let's stop all the posturing and pointing fingers and get a new justice nominated and confirmed and in place for the day after the election when all the lawsuits start flying. It is CRITICAL to the upcoming election.
     
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    When states or individual cities advertise they are sanctuary cities for illegals then they are inviting them to break our laws and try and attain illegal entry. Cities that knowingly harbor illegals and grant them rights that undermine the rights of lawful citizens and dilute their political power are in effect recruiting votes.

    Citizens who have allowed states to usurp their Constitutional rights should hang their heads in shame. Are there no men or woman in your states that any individualism left to stand up to these political tyrants. Are you Marxist's or Americans?
     
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    "Oh well"l?
    :lol:
    You and I both know that you will, reflexively and w/o reason, scream bloody murder at anything the GOP does to reduce the power of the Democratic party.
    Because you always do.
     
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    News Flash:
    Had Clinton won, your "tyranny of the minority" label woudl apply to her as well.
    The "Senate popular vote" means even less than the "National popular vote".
    The US isn't a democracy. Never has been. Never pretended to be.
    Good luck, both is organizing such a thing, and living with the mess that results,
    Said no rational, thinking person, ever.
    Ah. I see you are ignorant of what "fascist" means.
     
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    You say this like the Democrats, in the same position, would not do the same thing, and that you would not fully support them in doing so.
    You're upset because the GOP was able to screw the Democrats and nothing more.
     
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    The desperation, and inefficacy, of such a response cannot be overstated.

    Trump, under article II of the US constitution, has the plenary power to nominate SC justices.
    As such, doing so is never a "power play".
     
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    After what McConnell did? Yea it is.

    Let the American people decide. We have an election in a little over a month.

    What are you afraid of?
     
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    I'm upset because the GOP is nakedly partisan and dishonestly hypocritical. They can NOT be trusted
     
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    Probably not.

    If the Refs aren't gonna do their job, then why should only one team continue to handcuff themselves? Either both teams play by the same rules or screw it, Calvinball it is.

    Oh. So it isn't a rule then. You should really get your story straight.
     
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    A Committee Rule isn't legislation...it's simply a rule. There are many rules and regulations that aren't Federal Code...Section 5 states that each chamber gets to make it's own rules on how it's run. The Biden rule was created in 92 by the Chairman of the Judicial Committee, reaffirmed in 2007 by Chucky S....
     
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    The Senate has plenary power to reject nominees. That we have what will be the most turmoiltuous election in our history is exactly why we need a full SCOTUS in place.
     
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    Trump's nominee will be confirmed very soon. Probably in about three weeks.
    The three RINOs will probably vote to confirm, especially Collins.
    It is too late for Collins to resign, and she does not want to be voted out of office.
     
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    Nothing -McDonnell- affects the legitimacy of -Trump- exercising his constitutional powers.
    Thus, there's no power play.
    Perhaps you should finally read the constitution.
    The people did decide - in 2016 and 2018.
    We are told every day, by any number of partisan shills such as yourself, Trump will lose, and the Dems will take the senate.
    Are they/you wrong?
     
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    How does this differ from the Democrats?
    Do you believe the Democrats would not do the same thing, if the situation were reversed?
    Why?
     
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    A Judiciary Committee hearing is also optional. McConnell should skip another absurd DP slander fest.
     
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    That doesn't answer my question. You claimed a "commie agenda." Either you don't know what communism is, or you can't answer so you're changing the subject to illegals and sanctuary cities (which, by the way, you clearly don't understand).

    Try again to clarify the commie nonsense. Meanwhile, allow me to repeat:

    They don't vote. Anything you've been told about illegals voting in national elections is pure horse pucky meant to scare you into thinking that you must support Trump and his reformed Republican party. It seems to be working in your case.
     
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    Pelosi's hand has been revealed. In a few weeks, another show down and government shutdown will occur. This will cripple the Senate from appointing a Justice.
     
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    I am sorry for her family, I have nothing against RBG, she had her ideology and stuck to it like glue, something to be said for that. I didn't always disagree with her, but for the most part I was ok with her.
    Now
    We will see the hypocrisy of the left in full form, yes Republicans blocked Obama's nomination, but that is how it works when you are in charge, as Valerie Garret said after 2012, elections have consequences, was that true then but not true in 2016 or 2020? you can't have it both ways. Every living organism on earth knows for a fact that if democrats were in charge right now they would nominate and approve a liberal to the court in an election year, do not pretend anything different.

    There has bee a lot of posturing within minutes of her death, I find it sad that Shumer's first response was to whine about a new nominee then follow up later with some words of sorrow for her death. Typical.
     
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    The 10 planks of Communist Manifesto

    1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.
    2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
    3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
    4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
    5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
    6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.
    7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
    8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
    9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.
    10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.

    I don't have to be scared. I know in many ways it is already here.

    Marxist Communism supports any clashes between the races.
    Marxist Communism supports anarchy and destruction of of Capital systems and the working class.
    Marxist Communism supports dilution of any conservative values that are a hindrance to socialist ideals. Any means available.
     

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