Morocco Has Fired Up the World’s Largest Solar Power Plant!

good name!

 

Source is locked out by a PAYWALL which is PF Rule violation!

 

Furthermore it was built when solar panels were expensive and mirrors were cheap which was just a decade ago!

Today solar panel energy production is about one quarter of what it costs to operate that facility.

It failed because it became obsolete thanks entirely to the SUCCESS of the other 97% plus investment in alternative renewable energy.

So yes, it is utterly ridiculous to point at a single failure and declare that the end of renewable energy. Plane crashes were common when the technology was new but within a couple of decades it became reliable and now air travel is commonplace.

The same will happen with renewables and in a couple of decades we will be celebrating the shutting down of the last of the coal plants.

 

No it's not now try actually commenting.

 

I didn't find it, I read the Wall Street Journal everyday, it was the molten salt project that had been cited in the thread as would solve the problem of storage. It didn't. The previous project was not "economically feasable". It's not a repair. It failed mechanically and economically.

 

Go back and read more slowly it it was pointed to as the means to solve the storage problem. It failed. Your hyperbole notwithstanding.

 

Just citing the news your attempt to paint it as "seething" being quite amusing. That appears to be you. I said then it was far from proven technology.

Another waste of taxpayer dollars thank you Obama.

 

Dupe

 

So long as the US is not involved, especially with money, and all you got is desert nobody goes into for recreation, and if you don't have to destroy plant life on living landscape to put in solar farms, maybe that ain't so bad except for the scorpions.

Time will show the results.

 

The molten salt project in Morroco which is the actual one cited in the thread is still working well.
Phase 1 is getting 3-4 hrs of power after sunset and phase 2 is up and running and achieving around 8 hours storage.
Phase 3 is well underway but photovoltaic only.

 

I don't believe it says that at all.

The company went out of business because it lost its contract. Their one and only customer went to a different solar energy provider.

This had nothing to do with whether the technology works or doesn't work.

Here in WA we had WPPS (now called Energy Northwest) which took out a gigantic municiple bond to build five nuclear reactors. That project failed due to cost overruns, safety concerns and legality issues, defautling on $2.25 billion that left those in the northwest holding the bag. We paid on that default through higher energy prices for DECADES. That was the second largest municiple bond defautl in US history.

Does that suggest that nuclear energy is a failure? Of course not.

 

The company as never able to do what it claimed it could do and is shut and will never be in operation again. It failed mechanically and economically. As did the pilot project and they still built it. So the problem of storage still remains, what to do when the sun don't shine. We know nuclear works it's proven technology, that your state did not manage your project very well does not change the fact that nuclear is VERY successful around the world.

 

Nonsense. It shut because there was no customer. There was no reason that the tank couldn't be fixed. And, even if that were true, such a failure does not mean that energy from solar steam is impossible in our economy. Your logic just totaly fails on that point.

Beyond that, Morocco has a successful plant that DOES use molton sodium to transmit and store heat, thus extending the working hours of the plant.

AND, no single plant has to run 24 hours. That is a bogus requirement.

So far I don't believe you've made any valid points.

 

WRONG yet AGAIN!

https://www.thedrum.com/news/2018/0...wall-decides-when-readers-are-ready-subscribe

Either QUOTE the content or be VIOLATION of PF Rules again!

Your choice!

 

For starters there are FOUR TIME ZONES across the continental USA which means that there is an EXTRA FOURS HOURS of sun shine each and every day!

Secondly there is HYDRO PUMPED STORAGE already in existence since the 1970's and now BATTERY storage is becoming more effective and economical.

Finally the WIND is BLOWING somewhere night and day which means that Wind Energy is a SOLUTION to when the "sun don't shine"!

 

Thing is

The USA is being left behind

BIG time!

South Australia is ready to put in its second large battery storage facility and it is doing so because

A) they make the company money off of the grid
B) they even out power flows to the grid with only microsecond delay
C) the reduce power blackouts
D) reliable

Etc etc

Soon we will have to employ a telescope to find the USA as the rest of the world passes you by

 

The wind that is blowing somewhere else is generating for that somewhere else. Those time zones are ggenerating for their time zone. And we still don't have the storage that this project was to show it's feasabilty. Scroll back and read the proclamations here that THIS was the answer.

 

Quote the rule that paywall sites cannot be quoted. Which is what I said.

 

Thank you for establishing that you have NO subject matter knowledge pertaining to HOW the INTERCONNECTED electricity grids function across the entire nation.

 

Thank you for establishing that your source is LOCKED BEHIND a PAYWALL and cannot be accessed and therefore does not "qualify as a source"!

"Content behind a paywall does not qualify as a source."