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Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What's the root cause according to you?
     
    Professor Peabody, Apr 25, 2019
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  2. Pred

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    Sure. Already said it should be illegal.
     
    Pred, Apr 25, 2019
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  3. FreshAir

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    you and I may support it, no republican in Congress will

    and Texas has yet to reverse course on that stance at a state level either
     
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    FreshAir, Apr 25, 2019
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  4. dairyair

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    A wall can be gone over, under, around, and smuggled through.
    And all of those options will be used if they have a need to get here. Mostly useless is the wall.
     
    dairyair, Apr 25, 2019
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    They sure worked well in San Diego by any measure you want to come up with. I feel a Jim Acosta moment coming.
     
    hawgsalot, Apr 25, 2019
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  6. dairyair

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    dairyair, Apr 25, 2019
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  7. dairyair

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    I don't know. Earlier another RW said the wall is 70% effective.
    So, the wall in SD has stopped illegals?
     
    dairyair, Apr 25, 2019
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    Why do you conflate legal immigrants with illegal aliens?

    Illegal aliens pay between $7B and $11B and then some collect. And you assume those jobs would go unfilled by a citizen who pays those taxes so the actual loss much smaller and inconsequential to total FICA revenue.

    https://www.politifact.com/punditfa...ow-much-do-undocumented-immigrants-pay-taxes/
     
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  9. jcarlilesiu

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    Anybody who believes (or at least attempts to convey) that the wall is the only solution is a fool.

    Physical barricades are useful in slowing people down. Not completely stopping them. Right now, we have massive recurring costs paying border patrol or are quite literally constantly chasing runners reactively. A wall is a proactive approach to slow people down so we can be proactive and reduce the number of agents
     
    jcarlilesiu, Apr 25, 2019
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    most employers can afford to hire an attorney. there is no express immigration clause in our federal Constitution.
     
    danielpalos, Apr 25, 2019
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    Congress can pass a law to make it a crime to knowingly hire an illegal.... don't make excuses for why republicans wont do it
     
    FreshAir, Apr 25, 2019
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    show us the Express immigration clause.
     
    danielpalos, Apr 25, 2019
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    show me where it says we can't pass a law making it a crime to knowingly hire a illegal
     
    FreshAir, Apr 25, 2019
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  14. Professor Peabody

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    Currently things are more unstable in SA because of all the money generated by illegal drugs going to criminal gangs and corrupt officials.
     
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    I've heard plenty of stories of those coming across the southern border claiming asylum who admit they only came here for economic reasons. Other than Venezuela, I can't think of any legitimate asylum claims from that region.
     
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    Our Constitution is Express, not Implied.
     
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    it is our drug war.
     
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    what do you mean by, economic reasons?

    And, why are those countries having drug war problems.
     
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    And a wall without those other attemtps, particularly addressing the root causes, is a waste of money IMO.
    And all tRUMP has going is the wall. No other policies being bantered around.
     
    dairyair, Apr 26, 2019
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    LOL. You think I have that answer?

    So, you disagree with that kook blog about why immigrants seek to come here?
    What is your actual take on why?
    Not the RW BS about they just want free stuff.
     
    dairyair, Apr 26, 2019
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    hawgsalot, Apr 26, 2019
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    What exactly is the root cause we should be fixing? I agree with removing the opportunities that people come here for, both jobs and benefits. Removing that alone though will not fix the issue.

    I agree with you dairyair. This needs to be a multi-faceted approach.
     
    jcarlilesiu, Apr 26, 2019
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  25. Professor Peabody

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    Why do you think the left clumps together like this?
     
    Professor Peabody, Apr 26, 2019
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