Mother of Miscarried Child: ‘He Is Very Obviously Human, Not a Cluster of Cells’

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  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Then you would be wrong. How many women do you know go months into a pregnancy then then on a whim decide to abort?

    The older the pregnancy is the more likely it is to be a WANTED pregnancy one that goes terribly wrong
     
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    Thread fail........:)...again...
     
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    yes, she had a natural abortion of a potential child, one that was never born into this world, I believe that life force that would of drove that vessel will find another vessel, just this one wasn't it

    it's very possible that this was a near death experience, someone was in a coma in this life for 14 weeks and then the life force ended up back in that body, no one knows, though many proclaim to know it all

    btw, sense this was a natural abortion, does that mean God decided to abort a baby?
     
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    yep - if one forces a rape victim to have their rapists baby and the mother dies, are they the murderer? they do not think it all the way through....
     
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    Well, you had nothing and couldn't defend it :) ( which is how it goes for most Anti-Choicers)

    ...I can see why you couldn't come back...
     
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    Fine them...do not get an abortion but stay away from everyone elses freedoms.
     
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    ?????

    I am pro choice.
     
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    My mistake...and apology.
     
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    Zeffy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No problem.
     
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    The main reason for abortion is that the child/pregnancy is unwanted.
    The main reason for claiming to care about life is the desire to appear caring.
    Those who care are doing. Those trying to appear to care are talking. (Typing in your case)
     
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    OMG what a bunch of silliness.

    1) Of course a fetus is human. The question is whether or not it is "a human" There is a difference between a descriptive adjective and a noun.

    2) "He is obviously a human: Not a cluster of cells" ... A human is a cluster of cells. Clearly not the sharpest tool in the shed this one.


    A "living human" (note the noun form of the word human as opposed to the descriptive adjective (human cell, human heart, human feces and so on ) does not exist without significant brain function. At least not to a coroner.

    When a human on life support loses significant brain function they pull the plug and the dirt nap begins. The human is no longer considered to be living. but, clinically dead.

    At 14 weeks there is no significant brain function. The wiring of the brain is not complete and the lights have not turned on.
    Past 22 weeks however, I would consider that a living human exists and can make "rational and valid" arguments to support this claim.

    What we have here is a fine example of ignorance, religious belief, and projection. The woman is projecting what might have been as if it exists in the now. This is fine but it in no way constitutes proof that a 14 week old fetus is a living human.

    The woman is welcome to her religious belief - perhaps believing in the Catholic doctrine of ensoulment - that the soul exists at conception.
    There is nothing wrong with holding this belief (other than a few logical contradictions) but, this belief has no bearing on the debate as to whether or not the 14 week fetus is human. (there is no way to prove a soul exits at conception)
     

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