Mother shoots son because he wanted to put her in a nursing home

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  1. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Just the scholarly research using techniques acknowledged by all and data available to all.

    You're on a par with a David Icke and co aren't you?
     
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    While attempting to predict what the recorded rates of incidents would be if certain firearm-related restrictions were implemented in a given area. These so-called "researchers" are actually attempting to tell the public that they can say with certainty what percentage of crimes can be stopped in any given area by the implementation of new laws, but not how this hypothetical stopping will actually go about being achieved. It is nothing more than hypothesis and guesswork, and scholarly credentials do nothing to make said guesswork anymore valid than that of anyone else.
     
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    Imagine this song without the lyrics and the beat? That's you.

     
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    The amount of effort being demonstrated on the part of yourself would be better spent in trying to prove that researchers are not subject to the same petty bias as every other member of the public, and that they do not let said bias and political ideologies cloud their work. But no such effort has been made. Nothing has been done on the part of yourself to demonstrate why these so-called "researchers" should be given any greater degree of regard than any other member of the public, simply because they hold doctorates in certain fields. They are still human, still flawed, still subject to the same pettiness as anyone else who wants to be regarded as right at any cost.
     
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    We have hundreds of crimnologists with a wide range of opinion, all using respected methodologies that you can check with publically available data. You should have a field day. Publishing critique tends to be an easier proposition...
     
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    The number of active criminologists is of no relevance when their work all shares the same fatal flaw in not only its presentation, but also in the basis of how the supposed "research" was conducted. Everything presented is predicated on the basis of legal firearm owners being the ones who are committing the majority of firearm-related offenses, and there is absolutely no evidence to show that this is the case. No matter what is claimed, no matter what is cited by yourself, this flaw remains throughout everything that is presented, as they make no effort to point out that the majority of offenses are committed by those who cannot legally possess a firearm under any circumstances.
     
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    Axes do not trigger the weapons effect and poisons are mostly regulated
     
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    conspiracy theories
     
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    More accurately it is simply recognizing that human nature cannot be removed from the equation; either on the part of those committing crimes for illogical reasons, or those who are presenting the data to a wider audience. And the number of papers that have been subject to the so-called "peer-reviewed process" that have later been retracted just demonstrates that the so-called "researchers" are no less prone to bias than any other member of the general public.
     
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    Can such be explained when an axe is also a weapon? Specifically, the modern rendition of the tomahawk?

    To some extent. But if the poison is created through a combination of common cleaning chemicals such as ammonia and bleach, or comes in the form of an over-the-counter medication being intentionally misapplied, such is not the case.

    https://www.thoughtco.com/bleach-and-ammonia-chemical-reaction-609280

    https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/breaking-news/index.ssf/2014/04/suicide_by_poisonous_gas_a_dan.html

    https://www.therecord.com/news-stor...about-so-called-visine-prank-says-pharmacist/
     
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    LoL.

    I forgot you thought a picture of a gun made people violent.

    No, most poisons are easily obtained I'm afraid.
     
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    LOL, you just can't resist trying to spin it into something it is not, and just to serve your gun banner agenda.



    So you are ok with "putting" someone in a nursing home because you don't want to deal with them? How heartless are you?
     
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    There is a process for adjudicating someone mentally unfit.
    Also: There is no mention of mental incapacity as it relates to the woman. Apparently the man was moving her to a home because she was "difficult to live with".
    Depending on the situation he may have been technically kidnapping her.
     
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    Kidnapping, or trafficking?
     
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    Would depend on statute
     
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    A rather fascinating observation on the matter.
     
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    I dont think she casually shot her son.
     
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    You are always suggesting that, no need to hide it...
     

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