Mueller report: Barr lied! There was was obstruction... and... surprise surprise...

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  1. struth

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    Nobody found a crime. more over it’s obvious from how provide an example of obstruction you don’t don’t know what it is
     
  2. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, duh!

    He was the one that they conspired against.
     
  3. BobbyJoe

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    A blowjob between 2 consenting adults isn't a crime either.

    Trump is obstructing the release of his taxes even though he promised and even though he's proud of them.

    He lied about boning porn stars and paying them off.

    For an innocent and honest and transparent guy, he sure isn't very honest or transparent (or innocent).
     
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  4. chris155au

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    How the hell can you be so confident that it will land him in jail?
     
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  5. chris155au

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    How do you know they are still seated?

    What indictment?
     
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    "... there was collusion. Not criminal collusion. But definite contact."

    So are you equating "collusion" and "contact?"

    So what are you saying that Barr said under oath that was a lie during his Congressional appearances?
     
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    I'm talking about Mueller's report, not Barr's letter which was what Mueller complained about! So again, don't you accept that Mueller's comments WERE made public when his report was released to the public?

    Well first lets establish that you are in fact talking about Mueller's letter to Barr, when you say that "he didn't" stay silent.
     
  8. chris155au

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    Okay. From your OP:
    You don't say what "statement" of Barr's you are referring to. That is sloppy. So can you say?

    So you are saying that in his summary letter, Barr didn't present Muller's conclusions below?

    1. No conspiracy with Russia

    2. Did not come to a conclusion on whether to indict for obstruction.
     
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  9. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Of course he could. That's what I'm saying. Aren't you paying attention?
     
  10. struth

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    But he didn’t.
     
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    I think he's paying attention, and that he has you pegged pretty well too. You've invested a lot of time in "reading into" the things you want to believe Mueller concluded. AG Barr made it perfectly clear Mueller failed to reach any conclusion at all per obstruction. AG Barr also made it clear that Mueller's outlining supposition was insufficient to conclude obstruction occurred. Russiagate is over, only your nihilistic delusions persist.
     
  12. chris155au

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    Oh, Mueller said this? These aren't merely your words?
     
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    Well, I gotta say you're probably right! The Russians conspired to get him elected President. Which is the worst thing that could ever have happened to him. If he'd stayed under the radar, he probably could've kept making money with his criminal activities probably... forever...
     
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    You can do whatever you want in your free time, I couldn't care less.

    Trump can't be obstructing the release of his taxes, because there is no law requiring it.

    Says the guy who just suggested giving reciprocal blowjobs not being a crime.

    I do understand TDS is overpowering tear ducts everywhere.
     
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    Unless something extraordinary happens like.... his eating habits get the better of him before he leaves the presidency. Or SCOTUS allows him to pardon himself, or that he doesn't end his term and Pence pardons him... something like that. But even then, I don't think state courts will let him off so easily.
     
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    Contact with the intention to collude.

    OP
     
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    Why do you keep asking the same questions over and over?

    If you don't see an answer to any question, that's because I have already responded and you know the answer. There must be a reason why you do this, but for me it's just a waste of time unless you indicate that you are trying to make a new point.
     
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    Ha! That's right And that's why Barr lied!

    Thanks for playing.
     
  20. struth

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    Nobody lied
     
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    You're missing the point(s).

    Why would someone lie and obstruct in regard to something that is not a crime?

    People do it all the time.

    Trump lied about the porn stars...he lies about everything. If only he had the balls to testify instead of running and hiding and tweeting.
     
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    Well that's because to charge you with "lying", all I have to do is question you until you get a date wrong or misremember something. Then I can bankrupt you with lawyer fees on my endless supply of government funding.

    Why would someone "lie" or "obstruct" when the prosecutor found no crime to prosecute? How can you have corrupt intent, which is the standard, when you're not charged with a crime in the first place?

    In the POTUS' situation, it's even simpler. Exercising his Constitutional authority cannot be construed as obstruction.

    You say Trump lied about the "porn stars". First of all, I don't care who he slept with. You're the one who said mutual sex acts wasn't illegal, and it's not. You were at least right about that.

    Secondly, as you noted, it's not a crime. I don't care who he mutually decided to have sex with 10 years ago.

    Thirdly, no, I don't know for a fact that he slept with Daniels but it doesn't matter to me either way.

    Fourthly, the immoral left isn't going to get to preach to me about morality.
     
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    Didn't you hear? Barr lied!
     
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    Of course! I didn't write Mueller's report. Mueller did! How in the world could I establish any of that?
     
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  25. Thought Criminal

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    We hear you.

    It's just not true.
     
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