Nancy Pelosi knows impeachment fervor could backfire -- and doom Democrats’ 2020 hopes

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  1. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He gave very bad guns to some very bad gangs in Mexico, who then shot and killed one of our border patrol agents. Fast and Furious.

    Holder ignored the investigation. And that's what Trump will do.
     
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    Had you ever really been a Republican then you would not have to ask that question. You just gave yourself away.
     
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    I've been telling you guys that for year now.
     
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    Fast and Furious was a Bush Administration idea.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A federal court judge denied the House's request to find Holder in contempt..............and the IG report cleared Holder of any responsibility for F&F.
    Some right wing myths never die..........even though they bear no resemblance to the truth.
     
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    Holder gave guns to gangs.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But.......they do. A court has found congressional Dems have standing in the suit over Don's violation of the Emoluments Clause. The tax returns are an important piece of evidence in that case and therefore can be subpoenaed.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Reducing the issue to a simplistic statement that neatly fits on a bumper sticker does not change the finding of the Inspector General. There are plenty of right wing myths to cling to so you'll need to go find another.
     
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    The Democrats should be ashamed of themselves.Why ? How about
    bragging on and on about how they intend to Go after a sitting president.
    A boatload of subpoenas already in the mix starting January 3.
    This is got to be a first in American Governance.
    That is why they crave leadership.To attack a sitting president.
    Even try and Impeach a Supreme Court Justice.
    Then again They Like,Cheat and Smear as a matter of course.
    They never woulbd have gottn their house Majority of it wasn't
    for so many GOP House members retiring { around 40 }
    Keep that in mind.
    Also keep in mind how these Drat Dimocrats thiunk about elections.
    Constant talking about Voter Suppression.How about Vote Shopping.
    How about This Gillum Marxist when asked about an illegal vote being
    cast they found.By an Illegal.He said he wanted it counter.Every vote
    counts.Howz that for today's new democrats.
    Same as the old ... I imagine.Like how the racist L.B.J.stole
    his first Senate seat election in 1948.Where ballot fraud was commonplace
    in some parts of texas.Johnson overcame a 20,000 vote deficit to go
    on an 87 vote margin in a Democratic runoff primary against a
    former Governor { Coke Stevenson }.
    Dimocrats will stop shorting of nothing in order to receive votes of
    The Dead,the Halt,the Missing and those unaware that an election was
    even taking place.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mark Levin says otherwise.That Congress has No Authority over
    one's Financials.NONE.PERIOD. Congress was never granted that
    authority.End of debate.They may be able to Issue subpoenas and
    Summons but they can't force one to abide.Even if it means taking all the
    way to the Supreme Court.
    You have heard wrong.Just like all the bogus blather about how a
    POTUS can be Indicted.They cannot.Not until they Leave office.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't want to go there.

    The comments were in stark contrast to a remark Chaffetz made before the election that he had "two years' worth of material already lined up" to investigate Clinton, the Democratic nominee for president who lost to Trump in last month's election.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...estigations-clinton-trump-20161202-story.html

    Part of the reason the Dems are looking at various matters to investigate is the complete abdication of that responsibility on the part of Repubs while they ran the House. When Chaffetz made his remarks Repubs had already been investigating Hillary for years.
     
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    He's wrong. The real question is whether the legal subpoena will be enforced since the Groper-in-Chief keeps installing loyalists at the DOJ and the SC.
     
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    I think this Maxine nutter is The First woman { Politician EVER }
    to publically { On Joy Reid's MSNBC show } suggest a POTUS
    Needs to " Shut up already ".
    Right there says it all.
     
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    Wrong based on what.? You don't like that fact.
    Neither did most in the Media until they did a little homework
    and learned the truth.
    The MSM in this Country is Corrupt.They get Hate Trump marching
    orders by their Honchos and just run with it.
    Trump has been right about most things.Particularly the Economy,
    NAFTA and eliminating all the Obama years of harmful rules & regulations.
    Trump is also correct about California and how they Mismanaged their
    Forestry service.They have been told numerous times the last few
    years about culling the Forests and especially underbrush.They have
    Belligerently refused and supported in that outright belligerence by an
    extremely incompetent belligerent Governor { Jerry Brown }.
    Who is out as usual using as excuse Global Warming.
    That underbrush is tinder.Californians need to lay the blamce squarely
    on that Incompetent " Moon Beam " knuckleheaded catholic { Brown }.
    To think this Californoia lug was educated by the Jesuits and was
    considering becoming a Priest.Spent time travelling with Mother Teresa.
    You'd think he knows better.Especially about his Democrats and their
    adoration for Abortion on demand.And that Mother Teresa personally
    Crusaded Against Abortion.But is this Califonia nutter can't fess up
    about Democrats and their unwillingness to Stop Abortion on
    Demand then it's a forgone conclusion.That Mother Teresa { still awaiting
    being declared a Saint } is goin' nuts over this California nutter.
     
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    No one takes “emoluments” seriously. The American people don’t care.

    But go ahead and investigate. The more time Dems spend investigating, the less time they’ll have on legislation. And the last thing this country needs is more Big Brother/liberal legislation.
     
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    Mark Levin's opinion does not count.

    The House Committee's joint opinion is what counts.
     
  19. Foolardi

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    That is a factual determination.Not based on any " opinion ".
    Yer talkin' like a Jim Acosta.Who instead of asking
    in a serious respectful way at a Presidential Press Conference,
    insists on " Challenging " this sitting president with his " Opinion"
    on the subject.
    Democrats are mostly Bluff and Blunder.That appears to be their
    inherited pedigree.
     
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    Medvin is an alt right obstructionist nothing more.

    His opinion means nothing.
     
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    The democrats have said they have eighty subpoenas lined up and are looking for anyway possible to impeach. The collusion obviously went nowhere and this new congress is going to cut it's own throat with these endless investigations
     
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    Wrong, the American PEOPLE's opinion is what counts and it sounds like dems are going to jar the PEOPLE awake again. "Why did we put these idiots back in office again?"

    Steve
     
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    You don't realize that those subpoenas include much that Mueller wouldn't be looking into? LOL!!!!
     
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    THAT's the problem with the Mueller investigation, it has no preset conclusion, it is only to investigate Trump. Without a goal to achieve other than investigate, it is unconstitutional.

    I'm sure YOU wouldn't tolerate that for a minute. Does that make you a fascist as well?

    Steve
     
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    So you oppose open ended investigations without a preset conclusion do you? Have you told that to your local PD, your county sheriff's office, the FBI, or any other law enforcement agency? If the cops were investigating a murder, and turned up enough evidence of a child porn ring, was it a waste of time to pursue those pervs to justice, if the murder was not sustained by a charge? Personally, I am delighted if they helped shut down that kiddie porn operation regardless of their original intent when they first began surveillance and interviewed suspects.

    By the way, the Mueller investigation was not set up to find evidence of Donald Trump committing crimes. That is a bold faced lie. It was set up to investigate potential wrong doing that the administration, the Trump campaign or others closely aligned with either because the White House, the AG's office, the Department of Justice and the FBI might have conflicts preventing a full and vigorous investigation themselves.
     
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