Discussion in '9/11' started by RtWngaFraud, May 4, 2012.
Genuine laughter is such a sweet, sweet thing.
Quoted for truth!
Wow, more incredible irony.
Who is going to fire them? ASCE members are not government employees. Are their employers in on the conspiracy too?
Please provide a list of those "MANY" who have already lost their jobs.
I'm still waiting for you to address my previous points but you can add these to the list in your application of the NUMBER ONE RULE which is to not ignore your opponents points.
Please provide a list of 5 names please. If there are thousands as you say, it should be no problem for you to come up with 5.
You're wrong. But I'm sure you are used to that by now.
Here are some links for you. I'm sure you won't ignore them since you're so good at debate.
And please stop with the "government is scared shill" crap. It's getting really old. If you can't address the points raised with relevent facts of your own, then admit your defeat and move on.
If it makes it easier for you, it's okay for you to still hate the government even if you don't believe 9/11 was an inside job.
Of course then you'd have to change your username . . .
Might I suggest Crap_Flinging_Defeated_Monkey? I'm sure it's available.
And a lot more interesting.
Like his posts ALWAYS are.
the frady cat deniars here in denial also ALWAYS not only ignore the laws of physics and bld 7 constantly all the time as Im sure you have noticed,but they always ignore the fact everytime that NIST was caught lying when they PUBLICLY said for the whole world to see that there was no molten pools of metal found when SEVERAL credible people reported it.hahahahahahahaahahaha
The shills handlers sure pay them alot of money.
No way would they keep coming back to embarrass themselves for free constantly like they always do having to to make make things up to try and save face in their posts all the time.
In the aftermath of the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, D.C., engineering groups rallied to conduct a variety of studies, ensuring the safety of search and rescue workers and gathering evidence before it was land-filled or recycled. When the analyses are complete, the professionals hope to understand, in detail, why the buildings failed, particularly the World Trade Center towers.
For instance, the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) formed teams to work with local officials in New York and Washington to collect and evaluate data from the scenes. The work will be distilled into a report for ASCE membership and other interested parties. That report is expected to be completed in the spring of 2002.
To help ASCE collect data, the Structural Engineers Association of New York issued a call for volunteers to work at the two scrap yards in New Jersey receiving steel from the World Trade Center.
The American Institute of Steel Construction (AISC) also was represented among the professionals evaluating the evidence of the World Trade Center collapse. The group, consisting of a core team of six people and another ten advisers, arrived at the disaster site in early October, said Scott Melnick, vice president of communications for AISC.
Still waiting for you to support your claim that removing material from ground zero was illegal.
So let's say there was a murder.
Do you think police keep the murder scene under surveillance until the murder is solved and the perp is caught?
Why do you keep running away from discussing your claims?
Still waiting for you to provide some evidence for your shill claims.
And for the other points I have listed as well. I'll review them for your benefit.
Don't ignore them or run away now.
Did you finally figure out your entire claim is bull(*)(*)(*)(*) and ended up posting a one word eureka moment?
How come nobody found the humongous ingots that would have been there?
People who do not want the nazis to recruit useful idiots are glad to do this for free, especially those like me who know what they are talking about regarding arson investigations.
Any proof anyone here is 'paid money' to post against your whiny silliness?........if not,Shut the frack up.
One must first have something to sell before they can even think about selling it.
Still waiting for you to present some evidence of your shill claim.
And of course you keep ignoring the other points I brought up after you said that the first rule in debating was to never ignore points brought up by your opponent.
So when are you gong to address those points, master debater??
Do you have any evidence to support any of the claims you have made about the ASCE? FYI, many of the engineers who have published papers on the mechanism of collapse that brought down the three wtc towers are foreign nationals who work abroad. Until you can support your claims with credible evidence/discourse there is no reason to take them seriously.
yeah and they are FUNDED by us.if they dont go along with the governments version of events,they lose out on future work if they dont get fired.if you had done any independent research,you would know many professors in colleges and ASCE have lost their jobs or future work for speaking out.
If you do this,it will be the shock of my life and I will fall out of my chair from shock since EVERY single person on the NET that I have issued this challenge to all the official conspiracy theory apologists which is over a hundred people easily,everytime i ask them to read this book and get back to me and explain whats wrong with the information in the book,they never take me up on the challenge to read it.they dont know how to debate,which is you ALWAYS read the information in a book someone challenges you to do,not ignore it and post DEB WUNKER links on the NET,the net can type in ANYTHING they want to.
Hre is the challenge which like i said,I know you wont take because over a hundred OCTA'S on the net I have given that challenge to always refuse to take me up on it and just post a bunch of ramblings like cowards instead of being mature and reading the book and trying to explain whats wrong with it.they wont cause they know they cant. thats why I know you will be no different.read the book DEBUNKING THE 9/11 DEBUNKING,an answer to popular mechanics and other defenders of the official conspiray theory by David Ray Griffin,THEN come back and discuss this with me.
till you do that,I wont go any further because that proves you wont look an opposing viewpoint just like none of the other hundred or so OCTAS would.PROVE TO ME you are not like them,that you dont only see what you want to see and tell me you will read the book and pm me when you have.till you say you will and pm me telling me you have,again I wont go any further with you on this because he has all the answers and explains all this that your asking in the book.Its only been people on the NET I talk to that are never convinced that 9/11 wasnt an inside job.
The ONLY person in REAL LIFE I have ever given out a DVD to watch or asked them to read that book and wasnt convinced about it is my aunt and thats because she REFUSED to take me up on either challenge.she would always beat around the Bush saying-I havent had a chance to look at it,or read it.every single other person in REAL life,that takes me up on the challenge,always gets convinced in a heartbeat.there are TONS of videos out there that prove it,why do you refuse to watch them? Griffin has challenged the national media networks and congress to debate him on the national ariways,they are cowards,they wont do it just like many trolls all over the net wont either,they wont do it because they know they cant refute his evidence.
Are you actually DRG in disguise? All you do is shill for his book.
It is known.
You haven't provided any evidence for this. Sorry, your good word isn't enough.
Nor have you addressed the many points that I raised.
Are you afraid of debate?
1st thing to understand is that nanonthermate simply does not have the chemical characteristics to be an explosive, save only in the way you get explosions in grain elevators and had it been used in that fashion I'm sure one of the people would have mentioned the knee deep vey fine dust scattered all over three floors of the building and the characteristics of the bleast would have been far different that what we witnessed.
2nd whatever you use for an explosive there simply is not enough time between the time GWBush was sworn in as president and 9/11/01 to wire 267 stories of building for controlled demotition. It simply isn't possible.
no, we don't, actually. What we do know is that all of the red chips that the twoofers think is thermite looks exactly like and contains everything that we would expect to find in paint, plus a lot of stuff that we would expect NOT to find in thermite, like kaolin.
First point...by itself, that might be true. Chemically modified, that's not so true. Second point..puhllleease. This isn't the roadrunner and Wiley Coyote we're talking about here. There was ample time, and the invasion of Iraq had been planned prior to Bush's Supreme Court appointment.
Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). So you use to say it was nanothermite in the paint even though a layer of nanothermite even several paint thicknesses would do nothing but get the steel mildly hot on the surface. NOW you're claiming it was mixed with other chemicals to make a high explosive which works via shaped charges. I suppose now you're going to claim demolition crews are using high explosives you just paint on? I am SURE you can produce evidence to back up your new bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claim, right?
His source is a forum he heartily endorsed. The forum that claims that, not only were there no planes, but the twin towers were completely empty. According to his beloved forum, no one really died on 9/11/01.
Did I say all that? No..I think YOU just did. I'm sure the military brass informs you regularly of the latest advances in chemical technology. Carry on recruit.
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