Nantes cathedral went up in flames

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  1. free man

    free man Well-Known Member

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    The cathedral was set on fire in three different places.
    This is only a few months after the Notre Dame in Paris was burned down.
    No one will find the ones who burned down the one in Paris and they are working on putting the blame of some miserable clueless refugee from Africa, to avoid finding the people who actually burned down Nantes.
    The Cathedral stood there for 500 years, bu now it just burns down.

    Europe is in deep sleep mode while the house is burning !
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53462790
     
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    Make Europe Aware Again. :cheerleader:
     
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    If you thought that the process of Islamization in Europe was stopped because of the corona virus, you are wrong.
     
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    Notre Dame burned on 15 April 2019, that's one year and three months, not "a few months" and so far, there's no sign of a deliberate act and it's not burned down either. Burned down means, the building is no longer. Not the case, neither in Paris nor in Nantes.
    A cathedral is severly damaged by a fire and "Europe is in deep sleep mode", yeah right. face palm
    The last couple of months have shown very much the opposite. Btw, why not provide some evidence for the claim that authorities will blame this on some miserable African "to avoid finding the people who actually burned down Nantes." What is that conspiracy baloney about? And what does this have to do with islamisation? Must have been Muslims, it seems. Apparently we don't need our 'merican friends here anymore to create absurdly bizarre nonsense.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah I think it's quite obvious someone is burning them down
     
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    Which suggests the horrible one at Notre-Dame may not have been accidental.

    i.e. muslims...
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Their" destruction of ancient, archeological sites representing
    Babylon, etc. demonstrates a lack of respect for
    history.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, but look... something IS going on. It stands to reason that to the Marxist, Postmodernist, Woke
    generation there is nothing more offensive than Western religion. It has 'white' and 'supremacy' and
    'sexist' and 'homophobic' sewn up in its very fabric - so they think. So it's plausible that Wokers or
    Islamists ARE burning churches - just see what Muslim did in Paris. If it hasn't happened yet, church
    burning will become a thing in the future.
     
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    This insanity is being fed into our societies via "education".

    OLD AND BUSTED: The Little Red Schoolhouse.

    The New Hotness? The Little Red Book: Virginia School District Urges ‘Marxist’ SPLC Race, Slavery Lessons for Kindergarten.
     
  10. Caligula

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    If you say so, it must be true. I'm not 'merican, hence I know that the world is a little bit more complicated than left-right-black-white-good-evil. I find these simplified categories utterly idiotic, as if the political world consists of two kinds of people. But that's not the point. The point is, so far there's no sign of a deliberate act concerning Notre Dame, sure some nutjobs will claim that authorities are covering something up. Evidence? Proof? Facts? Nada, but it doesn't matter, let's speculate since it's so much fun (see post 6 - face palm) and we can claim to have warned the world but nobody wanted to listen.
     
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    Notice that as soon as you start asking about what facts they actually might have that support their grand contention you get - a deafening silence.
     
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    Well, it's not like the French didn't cover up stuff before...
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-chief-admits-1983-pact-with-fatah-terrorists
     
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    Zero evidence that Notre Dame was anything other than accidental.
    So, the Nantes Cathedral went "up in flames"? Is that what an organ and a few stained windows are being called, these days, the whole cathedral?
    The two cathedrals were "burned down"?
    Seems like we're in the realm of "alternative facts."
     
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    The only thing I see being suggested is that these Cathedrals may be more subject to fire hazard than was previously thought. You stand for well over a Millenium, you're made of stone...I believe people may be justified in thinking you don't catch fire easily. But not easily doesn't mean not at all, and EVERYTHING will burn.

    Or maybe it is arson and the matter is still being investigated.
     
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    BASH those Muslims, We're tired of beating on Chinese and the blacks are just no fun at all anymore.
     
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    100% evidence that nantes was arson, want to talk about it?
    Cause this is the subject here.
     
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    If I'm not mistaken, quite a few Churches have been set on fire in France - but look, it's just a coincidence like the fires that break out en masse when the winds start blowing in Greece. I think 50 started yesterday - on the islands mostly, a few miles from Turkey, but never in Turkey mind you. I guess the winds are not blowing in them thar Turkish hills.

    Today, to the cheers of the Muslims and to the chagrin of all the Orthodox, the 6th century Byzantine museum of Aghia Sophia was turned back into a mosque. July 24th though wasn't picked at random. It's the day Attaturk signed the Treaty of Lausanne, and the Ottoman Empire dissolved. Erdogan sees it as a humiliation that must be rectified.

    There's more though to this than just the symbolism of a Byzantine cathedral and its priceless mosaics. There is also Greece's territorial waters with its oil and gas. All of Greece is now on high alert and the Greek fleet is watching every movement of Turkey's search vessel the Piri Reise.

    In the meantime Turkey gave warning that anyone that approaches the search vessel within 50 miles will be attacked. Russia thank God, decided to intervene and warned Turkey that it now has a naval base on the Mediterranean. Cyprus gave Russia the go ahead for a navtax (a no go zone) in the waters that Turkey wants to search in. Turkey immediately declared a navtax in the same area.

    So now we have the Greek navy, Turkish navy and Russian navy. What's missing is the French and Americans - I betcha they're there anyway.

    Here's Erdogan. He started the Muslim chants in Aghia Sophia, and surprisingly he has a very nice voice.

     
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    Refugee now cleared.
     
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    Correct. But there was in the original post an incorrect statement about Notre Dame, and a couple of hyperboles about Nantes.

    I mean, YOU are the OP. YOU were the one who introduced Notre Dame in your very original post, said someone burned it down, and now you berate me for talking about Notre Dame??? You don't want people to talk about Notre Dame? Simple. Don't start talking about it in your very OP, because, you know, people will respond.

    But OK, so, let's talk about the small arson fire in Nantes which did NOT burn down the cathedral like you implied.
    What about it?
    There was a suspect; he was cleared and let go.
    Otherwise we have no clue about who did it. For all I know, it might be some nutjob born and raised in France with his whole family being French for the last 1,000 years.
    Who do you think did it?
    Are you assuming Muslims?
    If yes, please provide your evidence.
     
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    I don't remember all these fires 20 years ago, before the muslims came.

    And how disingenuous of you. Did you even read the opening post??
    It says the fire started in THREE different places.

    Or is that just a minor little inconsequential detail to you, in one ear, out the other?
     
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    Has to be one way or another for you? Sometimes whatever happens in France might be a cover-up, other times it might not.

    The sanctuary doctrine adopted by France in the 80s allowed terrorist organizations to gain a solid foothold in the heart of Europe undisturbed (France was not alone in this, by the way, Switzerland also made deals with terrorists). If you lie down with terrorist dogs, you get up with terror attacks, nobody knows that better than France today.

    Nantes cathedral not being some expendable Jewish woman, chances are the French will actually make some efforts to apprehend and bring the perpetrator(s) to justice.
     
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    My point is that the existence of a past cover-up in the eighties has no bearing in the likelihood that we're seeing a cover-up now in 2020.
    And you don't even know if this is linked to terrorism. Don't jump to conclusions. Maybe it was a homeless crazy guy.
     
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    Tight and wrong really are a simple as black and white. Tying ourselves in knots trying to justify otherwise is where things get complicated.
     
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    History has the nasty habit of turning around and biting the tender parts when we least expect. We call it "consequences".

    It's hard to tell if the Nantes cathedral fire was a terror attack, since no organization has claimed responsibility.
     

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