NASA to send humans to the moon once again -

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay so it isn't an insult, but it sure is intemperateness, and that also speaks volumes.
     
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    :sleepy:

    Pick a topic
     
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    So, you don't have any evidence oflying and deceit.

    But, that doesn't bother you - you're still ready to accuse NASA of a conspiracy of MASSIVE proportions.

    Nice!
     
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    no idea what a school childrens story has to do with the proven fact we landed on the moon, or the batshit crazy hoaxers that deny it?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You might not have noticed but all western government agencies lie through their teeth, so my default is why should NASA be any different? I don't like being patronised like a child - and NASA does it all the time - nor do I like being made a fool of. I believe your increasing hostility is because I've forced to you realise that the credibility you have accorded has been misplaced, and I can understand that, but just accept it and don't shoot the messenger??
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What proof? Go on, convince me; I'm not too proud to admit I was wrong. For example, why is there no visual recording of the lunar lift-off?
     
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    “The best predictor of belief in a conspiracy theory is belief in other conspiracy theories,” says Viren Swami, a psychology professor who studies conspiracy belief at the University of Westminster in England. Psychologists say that’s because a conspiracy theory isn’t so much a response to a single event as it is an expression of an overarching worldview.

    While psychologists can’t know exactly what goes on inside our heads, they have, through surveys and laboratory studies, come up with a set of traits that correlate well with conspiracy belief. In 2010, Swami and a co-author summarized this research in The Psychologist, a scientific journal. They found, perhaps surprisingly, that believers are more likely to be cynical about the world in general and politics in particular. Conspiracy theories also seem to be more compelling to those with low self-worth, especially with regard to their sense of agency in the world at large. Conspiracy theories appear to be a way of reacting to uncertainty and powerlessness.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html
     
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    :applause:

    Nice summation of the traits exhibited in the OP posts.
     
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    You've seen the proof already
     
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    No, that's a ridiculous thought process.

    I agree we have to check what gets said - that a level of skepticism is necessary.

    It is NOT legitimate to suggest that since you have detected lies in some places in government you must consider that everything NASA or some other specific agency says is a lie.

    That's not skepticism.

    So far, you haven't found anything that NASA has lied about. And, your continued assumptions depend on absolutey absurd conspiracies of massive and world wide proportions.

    And, that kind of BS on a science board IS irritating.
     
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    With low gravity on the moon and no atmosphere, boosting payloads from the moon can be done much easier than from Earth. It’s definitely wouldn’t be economical for delivering mined materials to Earth, but for orbital construction, especially at the Lagrange Points, it would be.
     
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    I mosttly agree.

    But, I'm not so sure that doing the work on the moon is better than doing the work in space when the result is going to be in space, anyway.

    At any rate, I think we're a ways away from actually having a consttruction project other than simply trying to have humans survive.

    Right now, our projects include satellites with sensing technology to visit objects in our solar system and satellites that have remote sensing capability like telescopes for detecting various ranges of electromagnetic radiation from distant objects. That techology is sure to be created in clean rooms on earth.

    There may be some final assembly done off-earth, but I'm not so sure that a moon base requiring moonmen would be cost effecttive.
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    Of course you're not.

    We've been bouncing LASERS off of these since 1969. The technology to land and configure these reflectors remotely didn't even exist at the time.

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    Did I miss the lunar lift-off then - okay I'll check out Youtube? Oh yes, there it is . . . 'We're on our way Houston.' beep, beep . . . (nothing happens) . . . 'Here we come Houston.' . . . 'Challenger is go!' . . . lots of squawking and still nothing happens . . . 'How do you read, Houston?'' Then at last it pops off from the undercarriage thang, floats around up and down for a while . . . then I lost the will to live! And I feel cheated, because it was tagged as being the views from outside and from inside, but they obviously forgot to take footage from the inside. Probably because they were too busy talking to Houston? :roflol:



    :rolleyes:
     
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    So is childlike blind belief by sentient adults.
     
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    So your issue is that you think some some random youtuber tagged a post incorrectly?? It's not 100% clear if the window mounted camera was inside or outside so there's a good chance that you're mistaken and there was footage from the inside it was looking out capturing the liftoff.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you looked at that patch of white light, bobbing and bouncing around as if deciding which way to go, believing it was the module did you? By the way, it wasn't posted by 'some random youtuber' it was originally from an official source. :wall: How can you be so naive?
     
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    Make your mind up you said you had an issue with the video being tagged with footage of the lift from both the outside and the inside.

    So let's get this straight, your claiming the original footage of the lift off is fake. Yes or No?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look, I was depressed enough watching what was obviously a fake video without getting more depressed by discussing it with you??
     
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    No need to get depressed, no one thinks you're capable of discussing anything regarding science, I'd ask you what makes you thinks it's fake but there's not really any point. You will either just 'know' it is because you're not gullible, your gut will of told you so or it's all a conspiracy.
     
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    The proof that 1+1=2 can be found on page 73 of volume 2 of Principia Mathematica by Whitehead and Russell, 1910
     
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    I stated that skepticism is important.

    You are projecting g something very different - a decision that there is a conspiracy if stupendous proportions but for which you can supply zero evidence.
     
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    So Cerebus, when confronted with undeniable evidence proving we had to have landed there, you just ignore it and post more crapola.

    I can't imagine why you are so severely confused about so much.
     
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    Look, one more effing time - cosmology isn't a science, it's merely the observation and study of the universe. If you want to define it as a science that's up to you, but I don't.
     

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