NATO may die if trump is re-elected.....

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  1. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump is a great barometer. Not only is no one faking their hatred for President Trump, no one can even hide their hatred for him for long, and all of the right people hate him. President Trump has exposed enemies in our midst before. He has exposed those who are willing to throw us under the bus to get at him. They can't resist it; they hate him so much. But all the American people care about is that they were willing to throw us under the bus to do it. If NATO is willing to cut off their noses to spite Trump's face, we are better off knowing that. If they'd do it for a dime, they'd do it for a dollar. After all, what did you think that a drained swamp would look like anyway? It's just a bunch of exposed slimy, stinky, nasty filth, the lot of it. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we found NATO down there.
     
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    That would more because there isn't a threat, than any sort of deterrent.

    Things were far too calm for NATO's warmongers, so they did what they could to create the appearance of a threat - to scare the masses into supporting NATO.

    NATO operatives literally murdered innocent civilians in false flag terrorist acts thru Operation Gladio.

    How innocent European civilians died just to justify NATO's existence??
     
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    NATO kept the USSR in check when they existed and they keep Putin in check now.

    YOU are acting as an agent of Putin whether you mean to or not
     
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    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, Putin better work on that blitzkrieg thingy. The Russian Federation has been bogged down in the Donbas region of Ukraine since 2014. 5 years, 8 months, 2 weeks and 1 day to be exact.

    Historically, Russia, in its various modern iterations, has shown little interest in conquest. Its overwhelming focus has been on its border states. Every military conflict from the Federation's inception has been a border squabble or fighting insurgents within and around those borders.

    In short, if it doesn't effect Russia's borders Russia doesn't much give a **** militarily.
     
  5. Professor Peabody

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    Let Russia have them if they never planned to defend themselves.
     
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    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    On the move? Come on, the Russian Federation is, arguably (one can easily argue both sides), dealing with issues remaining and unresolved from the dissolution of the Soviet Union. The ten conflicts that escalated into military conflict over the past thirty years involved borders, border states and equally Russian diaspora left just outside borders or anti-Russian enclaves within.

    Comparatively, Russia bitches with its neighbors about the new fence and kinfolk dislocated, the US, now we're globetrotting equal opportunity combatants we don't need blood relations to be involved, or fences. Nope, we visit foreign lands from afar to convert the masses, or kill them, depending on our moral appetite at the time.

    Perspective.
     
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    Ya right :) You kid yourself! ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯

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    Nonsense on both points.

    Russia is a paper tiger, and would no more attack/invade Europe than would the Bad News Bears.

    Fear is the stock and trade of the Military Industrial Complex; and, while that is especially true in the U.S. , it is also standard operating procedure worldwide.

    Orwell was right... if there is no real enemy, one must be created.

    It was that logic that gave us Gladio and all of the terrorist acts committed by the U.S., Israel, and the UK.

    If one of your children or loved ones was killed by NATO forces who were supposed to be protecting them, you'd be singing a different tune.

    If things were as you say, Gladio would never have been necessary.
     
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    Nope,
    NATO and the US will always dance in the dark,
    they need each other and will become apparent when the situation calls for it.
     
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    You are welcome to present evidence that NATO or the UN had anything to do with it. But, sadly, you can't.
     
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    The dem narrative is worthy of Superman's Bizarro World.
     

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