Naval Sea Battle In Azov Sea - Russia captured 3 Ukrainian Ships

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  1. Striped Horse

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    Dans le Noir?
     
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    WRONG
    It's Dumb, or may we say STUPID - to take control of a country by a violent American financed
    Illegal Coup, on the sensitive border with a Nuclear Armed, and somewhat legitimately Paranoid
    ..............................................................................................................Russia

    And then - when your poles tank out at a 7% low, as an election comes due, to threaten your
    neighbors critical Infrastructure and send armed vessels to seemingly back up those threats

    And then
    - to use that confrontation as an excuse to declare Martial Law so as to avoid
    the election,..which would most assuredly have him thrown out into the street.

    H
    is actions have absolutely nothing to do with defending his country, and instead has everything
    to do with maintaining his Illegitimate grip.on Power. All at the behest of his Dinosaur backers
    ................................................................................................................ in Washington

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    Poroshenco had best realize that when he has been thoroughly USED he will
    be summarily flushed down the toilet - Like so many others your Washington
    ..............................................................................Reptiles have betrayed

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    Good for you but we have no evidence of that whatsoever. And insulting me would tend to indicate that your position is intellectually bankrupt.
     
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    To clarify; what happened to your communist statement? Did it get misplaced on the way to the reference library?
     
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    Love it...
     
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    That would be wrong, but that's not what happened.

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  7. Eadora

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    You INSULT Yourself

    The Pentagon Can't Account for $21 Trillion (That's Not a Typo)
    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-pentagon-cant-account-for-21-trillion/


    $37 Screws, A $7,622 Coffee Maker, $640 Toilet Seats; :
    suppliers to our military just won't be oversold

    http://articles.latimes.com/1986-07-30/news/vw-18804_1_nut
     
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    False and nasty accusations on your part.
     
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    That is EXACTLY what happened ! [​IMG]
    You simply cannot accept or deal with the Cognitive Dissonance that
    ........................................................................that Fact causes you

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    What would you say if it's not profit but nation building
    Yes it is. State capitalist.
     
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    duplicate
     
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    Oui Louis...
     
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    Putin is big on disinformation, but the fact remains that the Ukrainian people deposed that Putin stooge, who of course ran off to hide behind Putin like Grima Wormtongue running off to hide behind Saruman after he was cast out.

    You so want the USA to be a big, bad villain and Putin's Russia to be a good guy underdog, for whatever strange reason, but it just isn't so.
     
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    OK - with apologies - I can't say if it was 21 trillion $ - That is what the Article Claims
    But in 2001 Defense Secretary Rumsfeld admitted to 2.3 Trillion $ - ......There have been
    how many years before and at least 17 years.after 2001 that - I am sure will manage to yield
    .........................................................................................an obscenely Bloated Figure





    BTW - What background have I claimed ?
     
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    not
     
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    Sure you were buddy... Been online too long to believe silly backstory like this one.
    You're a conspiration nutter, nothing more.
     
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    Russia trying to provoke WW3
     
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    NO an American planned & financed Coup deposed Putin's stooge.
    The Ukrainian people could have voted him out, in the then, soon upcoming elections.

    And NO I do not want "the USA to be a big, bad villain"
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    I am with MLK on that score

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    It is the Big Bad USA that chooses to implement and 'pay the price'
    of Foreign Policy that involves the Starvation & Murder of hundreds
    of thousands of children - 'a price they feel is worth it'

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    A price the Dinosaurs - Or rather the compliant citizens of the USA
    continue to pay to this day. As Atrocities are being continually committed
    in their name, by their Stooge butcher Saudi Proxies and their UAV Drones


    The War in Yemen is Not a War, It is a Massacre
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50674.htm
    from the Article:
    The numbers are mind-blowing: Since the beginning of the conflict in Yemen,
    an estimated 85,000 children under five may have died from extreme hunger
    ...........................................................................................and disease,


    ..

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    Baldly Absurd - Ridiculous - worthy of a Dinosaur - NOT the Ronster :(
     
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    The Russian Federation hasn't been a communist country for almost 30 years now, so I'm surprised you don't know that. As I stated, the problem with Russia is that it has 30% of the world's natural resources and Washington knows that without those resources the world cannot survive.

    When the USSR broke up and the Russian people were given shares in the different industries, it did them no good. They couldn't eat the shares when they were hungry, so they were bought up cheaply by certain individuals who were funded by foreign banks.

    When Putin came into power and told these 'oligarchs' they either had to pay their taxes or go to jail, most fled with their money and they are the ones who hate and are demonizing Vladimir Putin.


    As for the Russians in the Baltics and Ukraine, most are living on lands that had been theirs since time immemorial, so why are you calling them expats?

    Anyway why should anyone have to give up their ancestral lands? Besides, if these Russian people were given the same rights as others within the boundaries of nations that were artificially formed by the Soviet Union, they wouldn't be posing a threat to those nations now. Instead they have an apartheid system to force the Russians to leave - and there lies the problem. Their own actions are contributing even more so to their paranoia, something that can only result in their own destruction.
     
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    I have news for you, that so called Putin stooge Yanucovich and Vladimir Putin never got along - but look, it doesn't matter does it, after all you're only saying it for its propaganda value.

    Anyway to Yanucovich's credit, he decided to delay negotiating with the EU when he found out they wouldn't help him offset the losses Ukraine would encounter when Russia cancelled it's special trade deals. After all Putin couldn't have EU goods coming in through those deals.

    The EU told Yanukovich to go to the IMF, but he refused to have the people suffer a 50% increase in gas as well as a 70% drop in social services. Today, the Ukrainians would be lucky if they had the terms Yanukovich refused.

    Yatsenuk and Poroshenko not only accepted the IMF loans, but stole billions from them as well. Yats has been kicked out, but even the Nazis can't get rid of Poroshenko - probably because he's Washington's stooge. No doubt this latest with the Kersch strait, is so he could declare Marshall law and stop the elections that he could never win.

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    You speak from clear ignorance where the political and electoral situation in Ukraine is concerned. You and I have electoral systems we can believe in and minimal foreign interference. Ukraine does not have these luxuries.

    And the stooge they booted out went against his campaign promises in favor of Russia (of course).
    The protests were sparked by the Ukrainian government's decision to suspend the signing of an association agreement with the European Union, instead choosing closer ties to Russia and the Eurasian Economic Union.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromaidan
     
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    Putin just couldn't have Ukraine being too friendly with the EU and us. His meddling will not end well for him.

    The claim that Poroshenko was scheming to declare martial law and cancel elections is laughable and typical Putin propaganda. He has already stated that elections will not be affected. Russia attacked and seized Ukrainian ships for no reason, and it's clear that it was done to try and give Russia a pretext to depict Ukraine as an aggressor. The declaration of martial law in certain regions is a necessary response to the threat of Russia's relatively superior military possibly coming in to steal more Ukrainian land, again under false pretexts.

    Putin is fighting his own little war against NATO. It's largely an information war, but in Ukraine it is also a hot war.
     
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    Sorry. I've mistaken you for another member posting in this thread whose username starts with an "E".

    At any rate, I'm pretty sure even Donald Rumsfeld has made mistakes before.
     

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