NBC, ABC Correct Story That Cohen's Phone Was Wiretapped

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They didn’t retract, they changed the headline.
     
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    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that right?

    They didn't change the story, just the headline?

    That's even worse.
     
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    I read that he was shot with a 22 cal. As he was fleeing. The robbers were not using a proper caliber to insure a hit. So there is that. And they could have gotten spooked, given the struggle and the guy running away.

    So I would never just say it was a hit. Given that a hit generally does not involve a struggle, but lead finding a head, quickly. This apparently did not happen.

    Yet from the way assange addressed the incident, it appears by the way assange talked that this guy was his source. Otherwise why would he offer a reward to anyone fingering the killers?

    The murder remains unsolved.
     
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    Well I happen to be married to a successful journo and I showed her this and she told me what I already knew she would say. Verify, verify, verify. This is very embarrassing for a newsroom.

    The media all of it at the national level has become in my opinion slightly unhinged. I don't think irreparably but this was easily avoidable. They were foaming at the mouth for some nice click bait and ran it without verifying it with government officials. So I commend NBC, and ABC for the retraction. CNN wouldn't have done that. They are beyond redemption atm.

    Interesting thread
     
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    The .22 rimfire is a known hitman’s weapon

    With a silencer it makes almost no sound
     
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    You just taught me something, if true. I have never heard that before. I always thought a larger caliber was better, for obvious reasons. And they make silencers for those larger cals. A teenager here this year shot himself in the head with a 22, playing russian roulette. He survived it. Might have been harder with a larger cal.

    Anyways, I read rich was not shot in the head, but not sure if that is true. I read he was shot in the back as he fled after a struggle with his assailants. If I were gonna do a hit, I would have walked up and shot him in the head before he could struggle, or fight back. And then put a couple more in to insure he would die.
     
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    As much as you'd like it to be B.S. it's not. They could have not made a correction and instead maintained their position.
     
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    I’m not sure I would accept the police reports at face value since the deep blue DC police read the presidential tracking polls just like everyone else in that town
     
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    I worked in the news industry for close to 40 years; I agree with you that verification is critical, especially when reporting on very sensitive stories. You can be assured that their will be hell to pay at the next editorial producers meeting at NBC & ABC; they do have professional pride at stake as well.
     
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    It is also reported that the FBI has his PC. Yet no word if there is evidence of communication with assange, or Amb. Murray who broke the story that russia was not the source for wilkileaks, for he knew the source. MSM immediately went into blackout and no followup was ever done. No investigation into what Murray claimed. A bit odd, no? lol
     
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    It is absolutely BS.

    In the rush to be the first to benefit from click bait, they posted a false story. It wasn't some little story. It was a MAJOR story.

    And the rest of the liberal media immediately jumped on it.

    Once they learned there was no wiretap of Cohen, just metadata involving phone calls, they quietly updated the story.

    They represent what has become the 4th Estate, and why so many distrust everything they do.
     
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    Some old timers there may be slightly embarrassed

    But that wont last past the next news cycle

    And it wont apply to the snowflakes who grew up with little sense of personal acountability
     
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    We'll both have to agree to disagree on this thread I guess.
     
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    I'll admit it has changed since I started in the industry; they had very high standards which over the decades has eroded. Once the accountants and lawyers took over running companies it all became about money and ratings when it came to news. All else is secondary. It's too bad because at one point the media was respected by most all people. All I can say is I'm glad I'm finally retired.
     
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    All of those threads were started by a PF member who uses fake news sources as a source.

    NYT has entire web page dedicated to NYT retractions. -> https://www.nytimes.com/section/corrections

    CNN = Fake News

    Yahoo News = :roflol:
     
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    No....it's called getting caught in a big fat lie and having to change the story. The Left-wing media has been exposed countless times engaging in fake or manipulated news....way more than simple inaccuracies. And the part about "responsible journalism" is quite amusing!
     
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    Fair enough. That is always a refreshing and preferred way to do it. :handshake:
     
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    Funny how the trumpettes are screaming about "responsible" journalism in defending a "responsible" president.

    Amazing how selectively trumpette responsibility is applied in defending their Lyin' King.
     
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    Both you and I will just have to agree to disagree on this thread.
     
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    And the leftists are perfectly content if the media lies as long as it bags on President Trump. Leftism is slowly merging with fascism. I don't want fake news from any angle. If journalists of all types.. Real ones. IE ones with journalism degrees and experience would just go back to their roots of the basic fundamentals that protect them from these types of mistakes.. We'd all be the better for it. Most careers a degree doesn't mean much but in journalism it means alot. It provides an unassailable foundation that's rooted on protecting their credibility.
     
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    Well that's the rub isn't it? These are real news rooms with processes already in place and I would bet my life this story was edited by a senior editor and the very first questions out of their mouths should have been where did you source this from and did you verify this with an official source? The devil is in the details on a complicated process like these wiretaps and what was recorded and not. The editor fkd up royally and didn't protect either their stations credibility or the reporters by asking probing questions. This kinda stuff can get you axed in a heartbeat
     
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    No, when the media lies, it should be exposed and corrected, which is what was done. REal journalists understand that they can't 100% accurate 100% of the time, but they CAN be 100% responsible. I believe these real journalists and their organizations did exactly that. Stood up an said, we got it wrong.

    BTW, I totally agree that partisan confirmation bias is a human characteristic that can be found in all its absurd denial of facts on every side.

    When do you think you'd be in a position to observe the exact same phenomena within the media on the right that you observe on the left,except its "in the bag" for trump?

    I do understand the convenience of simply dismissing uncomfortable truths by crying "fake news". It expends far less energy to suspend critical thinking skills, than engage them.
     
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    Well said!
     
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    I know you are but what am i?
    Classic!
     

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