Negotiate Peace With Russia to Prevent War Over Ukraine

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  1. tecoyah

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    Negotiate Peace With Russia to Prevent War Over Ukraine

    The United States is already "At Peace" with Russia....They might break this peace by invading Ukraine but that is on them and any response is their own fault.

    Actually Putins fault as the people have nothing to do with it, but will suffer the result.
     
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    Destroyer of illusions Well-Known Member

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    We'll see soon.
     
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    Looks like your Führer is fixing to invade Ukraine (some more).

    Enjoy the coming Russian economic crash.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The results of course. Maduro is president, isn't he?

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    Conclusions should come
    from the truth that it bears,
    and should never come
    from what someone hears.
    - Jeannette


     
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    The results of what? The fighting? A rigged election?
     
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    Venezuela’s recent elections an improvement over past votes: EU

    ...

    Isabel Santos told reporters on Tuesday that EU observers noted a “lack of adherence to the rule of law” by Venezuela’s governing party, despite “better conditions” than previous contests.

    ...

    The US, which also had observers in the South American country, condemned the election as a “grossly skewed” sham on Monday.

    “Maduro robs Venezuelans of their chance to shape their own future,” said US Secretary of State Antony Blinken. “We call on the Maduro regime to cease its repression and allow Venezuelans to live in the peaceful, stable and democratic country they deserve and have long sought.”

    ...​
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...t-elections-an-improvement-over-past-votes-eu
     
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    Who said destroying China destroyed Russia... Think you need to better distinguish between what folks say and the voices in head.
     
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    Uhhh! Didn't they try that in 2014? If it didn't work then when Russia was unprepared, what makes you think it will work now? This time though the economic back lash won't hurt only the EU, but the US as well. Boeing may not be able to continue without titanium.

    Anyway, I read that all of Russia's troops are heading west, so when Ukraine starts its war, which they will if our propaganda networks are being read correctly, they're going to get the surprise of their life.

    Years ago when someone told Putin that they lost Chechnya, he said it will be over in two weeks - and it was over in two weeks.

    Here's Grozny a few years later celebrating Vladimir Putin's birthday.


     
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    Still posting the opposite of the truth, I see. Ukraine is not starting any war. Russia started a war against Ukraine in 2014, though.
     
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    Till they die from radiation poisoning.
     
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    Fake News = real news in this thread.
     
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    Obama and Biden sent pillows and blankets to help but refused to send the anti-tank weapons they needed.

    Hunter no longer gets a boat load of cash every month from a Ukrainian energy company. The Ukraine should be very worried. Maybe they can give Hunter his old job back?
     
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    Virtually everyone knows by now that MSM = Fake News. Some pretend not to know. ;-)

    "“So CNN has people on the payroll who they pay to tell their lies to the CNN audience in the middle of a CNN hour for some number of minutes,” he continued, making Franken laugh sardonically."
    CNN, MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell Accuses CNN of Helping Trump Spread Lies
    ‘WE DON’T BRING ON LIARS’, “That’s one of the reasons why Trump kind of wants you to watch CNN instead of MSNBC,” Lawrence O’Donnell said in a new interview., By MSNBC’s Lawrence
    Matt Wilstein, Senior Writer, Updated Jan. 13, 2020.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/msnbc-host-law
     
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    I guess you're in the 10% that still watched that Channel. They have more clowns than a Barnum and Bailey Circus.
     
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    NY Post.. Now there's some fake news for ya.
     
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    During the air campaign against Britain a lot of munitions dropped on that poor country
    came from Stalin. Poland was destined to defeat because it was attacked on both sides.
    Many Poles were killed by the Russians and eastern Poland became Communist. That
    s.o.r.t....o.f...s.o.u.n.d.s...l.i.k.e...a.n..i.n.v.a.s.i.o.n...t.o...m.e.,,, similar to the 'liberation'
    of Finland and the Winter War.
    Poland was invaded twice by Stalin.
    1,500,000 Poles were deported, 22,000 Polish officers, intellectuals, government ministers
    etc murdered. All land and all businesses were confiscated. Poland was absorbed into the
    Soviet Union. This wasn't invasion, it was genocide.
     
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    And the same may happen again if Ukraine gets invaded....and after that Lil Putinka will look at Poland again....Baltic again, and wherever Lil Vladdie thinks he can pull a fast one.
     
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    Jeannette, In Soviet Union propaganda was very easy – all soviet newspapers had a single version of every event and people were forced to believe in only one version, but today with the Interment everyone has an option – to believe that Russia and president Putin always tell the truth, or they are lying.

    The truth is the world can live in peace only when Russia will allow its neighbors to have a democratic society and stop sending tanks and artillery to rebels in Ukraine. I know, the are some gullible people who believe the rebels received tank, rockets and artillery from 'somewhere'.

    Some people suffer from dementia, but I still remember that Russia signed an agreement which provided assurances against threats or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances

    Russia broke the Budapest Memorandum and now we have to believe it will not break other agreements?

    As for Syria and Assad, here how it started, without any US interference:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_civil_war
    “The unrest in Syria (which began on 15 March 2011 as part of the wider 2011 Arab Spring protests) grew out of discontent with the Syrian government and escalated to an armed conflict after protests calling for Assad's removal were violently suppressed.

    Pogrom in Korsun?
    Here in another version:

    https://www.kyivpost.com/article/content/war-against-ukraine/debunking-the-kremlin-myth-about-the-korsun-pogrom-video-383832.html
     
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    But CNN is real news? I guess that's why they lost 90% of their viewers who now can see right through them.
     
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    Why do you imagine that ratings equates to how genuine news coverage is?
     
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    I guess people don't believe the crap they're shoveling.
     
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    Ah yes, honest Abe Blinken. Who's not to believe him?

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    When white is black and black is white,
    how happy we'll all be.

    For we'll be told that all is well

    and we will all agree.

    And should one say that there is pain

    and doesn't see the gain.

    we'll pity them for we'll all know

    that they must be insane.
    - Jeannette


     
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    Ah yes, stupid graphics and corny poems. But when I put a picture here
    of Adolf feeding the baby deer I am reported. Clearly pointing out dictators
    can be kindly souls is reportable if it's not YOUR OWN favorite dictators -
    you know, like Maduro, Putin and Xi.

     
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    It is Russia who starts the wars. No one else starts them.

    If Russia expands their invasion of Ukraine, the world will give Ukraine more weapons to defend themselves with.

    NATO will also begin stationing heavier forces in Poland and Romania. This will probably include long range offensive missiles at some point.
     
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    You said it, when you said there was no need for us to build any more nukes.

    Non-existent nukes do not cause the desired amount of destruction in Russia. Actual nukes are much preferred.
     

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