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  1. HBendor

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    Interview Part One

    http://www.politicalforum.com/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=59
    March 24, 2012

    Subject:: Netanyahu Responds

    Even those who aren't particularly sympathetic to Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu could get a good measure of satisfaction from this interview with British Television during the retaliation against Hamas' shelling of Israel.

    The interviewer asked him: "How come so many more Palestinians have been killed in this conflict than Israelis?"

    Netanyahu: "Are you sure that you want to start asking in that direction?"

    Interviewer: Why not?

    Netanyahu: "Because in World War II more Germans were killed than British and Americans combined, but there is no doubt in anyone's mind that the war was caused by Germany 's aggression. And in response to the German blitz on London, the British wiped out the entire city of Dresden, burning to death more German civilians than the number of people killed in Hiroshima .... Moreover, I could remind you that in 1944, when the R.A.F. tried to bomb the Gestapo Headquarters in Copenhagen, some of the bombs missed their target and fell on a Danish children's hospital, killing 83 little children. Perhaps you have another question?"

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    Part TWO:

    Benjamin Netanyahu gave another interview and was asked about Israel 's occupation of Arab lands. His response was, "It's our land".

    The reporter was stunned - read below "It's our land... It's important information since we don't get fair and accurate reporting from the media and facts tend to get lost in the jumble of daily events.."

    "Crash Course on the Arab-Israeli Conflict."
    Here are overlooked facts in the current & past Middle East situation. A Christian university professor compiled these:

    Facts:

    1. Nationhood and Jerusalem: Israel became a nation in 1312 BC, two thousand (2000) years before the rise of Islam.

    2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.

    3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 BC, the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand (1000) years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.

    4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 lasted no more than 22 years.

    5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.

    6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned even once in the Koran.

    7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.

    8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem.

    9. Arab and Jewish Refugees: in 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews. Sixty-eight percent left (many in fear of retaliation by their own brethren, the Arabs), without ever seeing an Israeli soldier. The ones who stayed were afforded the same peace, civility, and citizenship rights as everyone else.

    10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms.

    11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 450,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be one Million.

    12. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in
    the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own people's lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey...

    13. The Arab-Israeli Conflict: the Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and
    won.

    14. The PLO's Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of
    the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them.

    15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.

    16. The UN Record on Israel and the Arabs: of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel.

    17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel.

    18. The UN was silent while the Jordanians destroyed 58 Jerusalem synagogues.

    19. The UN was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.

    20. The UN was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like a policy of preventing Jews from visiting the
    Temple Mount and the Western Wall.

    These are incredible times. We have to ask what our role should be. What will we tell our grandchildren about what we did when there was a turning point in Jewish destiny, an opportunity to make a difference?
     
  2. moon

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    LOL the troll has spoken. One day old interview of the Israeli leader is not 'Latest World News' to the Islamofascists...or perhaps they are just terrified of the truth the OP exposes?
     
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    Forget the insults and daisy-chaining- follow the OP link. And don't try to deceive the forum into thinking that Zionist shelling of Gaza took place on March 24th.

    You were saying something about trolling, were you not ? :mrgreen:
     
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  6. ObamaYoMoma

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    Can there be any dumber question to ask? Uhm...during operation desert storm there were astronomically far more Muslims killed than coalition members, and during the Iraq 2003 invasion there were astronomically far more Muslims killed than American troops. Why? Because Westerners aren't handicapped by Islam.

    What does this mentally incompetent reporter think, that wars where the objective is to kill or be killed should somehow be proportional instead? Excuse me but the objective of war is to obliterate your enemy with the least amount of casualties possible. How mentally incompetent can these mentally handicapped delusional self-hating Leftists be. Should the Brits have sacrificed a few more troops in WWII to the Nazis to even up the score so that these delusional self-hating Leftists could suffer less guilt? Give me a break!

    In addition, read the Muslim Brotherhood creed: “Allah is our goal; the Messenger our Guide; the Koran our law; Jihad is our Way; and martyrdom in the way of Allah is our highest aspiration.” Indeed, it says martyrdom (death) in the way of Allah is our highest aspiration. Thus, Muslims also readily sacrifice themselves because martyrdom is their highest aspiration, as all Muslims are inculcated cradle to grave to love death more than they love life. In fact, Muslims are also inculcated cradle to grave to believe that their true life doesn't really begin until they have spent this first life in the service of Allah as his slave, and dying a martyr in the cause of Allah entitles them to avoid purgatory and go directly to Allah's version of carnal paradise.

    Indeed, I remember many American troops during the 2003 Iraq invasion reporting that it was weird because many of the jihadists they were fighting would charge the troops right out in the open hollering Allahu Akbar and become sitting ducks in the process, like they were trying die.

    Nevertheless, that has to be one of the dumbest questions ever asked in the history of mankind.
     
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    Actually, as always you are wrong. It fits the criteria as the reporter's questions alone are newsworthy because they are so incredibly dumb that they set a new world record in stupidity and if that isn't newsworthy then nothing is.
     
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    bibi is a moron.

    ie.. rather than answer a question under his responsibility, he turns the question into other questions to sidestep facing the inquiry.

    the inbreeding of israelis for their own desires is based on its own hypocracy

    for example

    before islame is correct

    but no world government, archeology or recording of history besides the religious doctrine of idiots represents that claim.

    never has!

    palestine has been identified for far longer than anything israel..

    that is the religious wingnut version, not the history of the land.



    those claims of yours are all bull crap


    even within the Amarna letters, there is no israel

    it was always an egyptian held land during that whole time period of any exodus

    http://truthmagazine.com/archives/v...tm?PHPSESSID=adbbd725d4c795d501d874c3aec2e945

    when people try to make a religious text into history as if it represents history, then find the stupid is born to sustain the ignorance

    call it subjective ignorance!
     
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    I thought his answer was actually perfect. Read again:

    The interviewer asked him: "How come so many more Palestinians have been killed in this conflict than Israelis?"

    Netanyahu: "Are you sure that you want to start asking in that direction?"

    Interviewer: Why not?

    Netanyahu: "Because in World War II more Germans were killed than British and Americans combined, but there is no doubt in anyone's mind that the war was caused by Germany 's aggression. And in response to the German blitz on London, the British wiped out the entire city of Dresden, burning to death more German civilians than the number of people killed in Hiroshima .... Moreover, I could remind you that in 1944, when the R.A.F. tried to bomb the Gestapo Headquarters in Copenhagen, some of the bombs missed their target and fell on a Danish children's hospital, killing 83 little children. Perhaps you have another question?"
     
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    And even earlier than the rise of Ashkenazi and Khazar Jews. What is your point?

    The definition of Palestinian was eatablished in 1967, however the Palestinians have lived there for hundreds of years and are the descendants of people born and raised on that land.

    Incidently, Zionism was started in Europe in the 1890's.

    The conquest of what, exactly? Be more specific.

    Of Jerusalem? It began in 638, not 635, and there was more than one period of time during the Islamic caliphates.

    Jerusalem hasn't been the official capital of Israel for how many years? It became an unofficial capital of "Israel" since 1949.

    al-Aqsa Mosque is mentioned in the Quran, so al-Quds is referenced.

    Lets ignore the fact Muslims prayed facing al-Quds before turning the direction to Mecca.

    Lets ignore this is where we believe Muhammad PBUH ascended to Heaven.

    Lets ignore the fact that the Salah ah-Deen and the Muslims were the ones who fought the Christians to liberate al-Quds for both Muslims and Jews.

    No, he didn't. Jerusalem was around long before King David captured it.

    As I mentioned, before the conquest of Mecca, Muslims prayed toward al-Quds.

    A Muslim praying anywhere East, North, or South of Mecca does not pray with their back facing al-Quds. Nice try though.

    That does not give you the right to refuse their return, and bulldoze their villages, and continue expanding on their home land.

    If I went on a vacation, and came back only to find out my neighbor now claims my house as his, do you think that would work out for him?

    Nonesense.

    The Zionist supporting Jews were told to leave, as a result of the "Israeli's" refusing the Palestinians to return to their homes.

    And the Zionists also encouraged Jews to leave their countries to move to "Israel".

    You are comparing the refugees of one nation to the refugees of multiple nations in a timespan of 22 years.

    And it is between 800 000 to 1 000 000.

    Of course Jews were absorbed into "Israel", that was the whole purpose of the mass immigration. The whole idea of Zionism is to stop the assimilation of Jews in other countries and only "Israel".

    I'll get through the rest of your "facts" later.
     
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    I intensely dislike BiBi. He's an arrogant racist imo.

    Notwithstanding, he was asked an incredibly stupid question and his response was predicatable for a politician. However, he did make a point.

    As for the "it is our land". Only in his wet dreams and the fantasies of hardcore zionists. This well worn litany of claims in history is irrelevant. It cannot be justification for occupation and annexation.

    The facts remain, Israel by its very actions and agreements has recognized the palestinians as a people and a nation. Israel has recognized their right to self governance. Or did we all miss something with Oslo?

    Israel has recognized that the palestinians have territory of their own or they wouldn't refer to the WB and Gaza and Golan/Shebba as "occupied territories. I'm sure the zionists can figure out what "occupied" means in this context.

    BiBi and his ilk are disengenous at best and liars at worst wrt their intentions and desire for peace.
     
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    Actually, it's more the other way around. You are an obsessed Jew hating bigot and Netanyahu is a fine and decent human being.

    The so-called Palestinians were created out of whole cloth in Moscow in 1964 by the Soviet KGB to dupe gullible useful idiots as a disinformation campaign to camouflage the Islamic world's permanent and perpetual genocidal jihad of conquest against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel under a cloak of nationalism, which in itself is absurd, since nation-states, which are a Western manifestation, are un-Islamic and blasphemous in Islam, as Islam only sanctions a worldwide Caliphate. In fact, all nation states must eventually be obliterated by Islam because they are all abominations.

    In any event, what is happening in Israel is no different from what is happening in Kashmir, Jammu, India, Thailand, The Philippines, Chechnya, Russia, Western China, Cote D'Ivoire, Nigeria, Sudan, Somalia, Kenya, Ethiopia, Uganda, Chad, Bosnia, Kosovo, etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum. The Islamic world is waging a permanent jihad of conquest perpetually against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel primarily via their proxy the so-called Palestinians, just like they are waging permanent and perpetual jihads of conquest against the Hindu unbelievers, Buddhist unbelievers, Christian unbelievers, atheist unbelievers, Orthodox Christian unbelievers, and animist unbelievers that live in all the aforementioned countries.

    Obviously, you are so obsessed with hating Jews, that not only has it rendered you completely oblivious to the reality of Islam, but at the same time so myopic and narrow-minded that you can't connect the dots like normal people. Obsessive Jew hatred definitely has had a severe impact on your ability to discern reality.

    Your hallucinating. They don't refer to those territories as "occupied territories." Instead, they refer to those territories as the disputed territories. Nevertheless, per international law no one else but Israel holds better title to those disputed territories.

    Not to mention the fact that the only reason the Islamic world makes those unwarranted and false claims to Israel's territory is as a pretext to justify its permanent and perpetual jihad of conquest, just like it has also created nonsense pretexts in all the other aforementioned jihads it is currently waging against the above mentioned other non-Muslim unbelievers as well.

    Excuse me, but Muslims don't make peace with non-Muslims as that would be blasphemy. They may make Hudnas based on Muhammad's infamous treaty of Hudaybiyyah out of necessity (Daruara), but they will never make peace with non-Muslim unbelievers. In fact, Israel's so-called peace treaty with Egypt was a Hudna made out of necessity (Daruara). It was only supposed to last until the situation is ripe to attack Israel again.

    In fact, the so-called peace process is nothing but a scam to weaken Israel and to dupe gullible useful idiots.
     
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    Good post........
     
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    Bubby, you confuse me with somebody else. BiBi is not a fine and decent human being but thats just my opinion.




    I see so what your saying is that the various Israeli governments over the last say 30 or 40 years when negotiating with the palestinians weren't really negotiating with a people who had a right to be in palestine? That the various agreements signed by the Israelis including Oslo which iirc created the PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY was actually merely humouring a bunch of fake people?

    As for your Islamophobic rant that has nothing at all to do with the topic at hand, I'd be pleased to debate the merits and weaknesses of Islam and/or any other religion. Start a new thread in religion and lets have at it.




    you really should educate yourself.


    http://www.haaretz.com/culture/books/soldiers-testimonies-on-the-occupied-territories-1.377196

    Soldiers' testimonies on the occupied territories


    http://www.btselem.org/
    B'Tselem - The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories

    Apparently there's all kinds of Israelis that actually don't think the claims are unwarranted nor false. In fact, the Oslo accords make it quite clear.

    http://www.haaretz.com/print-editio...-area-b-in-violation-of-oslo-accords-1.413390


    So if that is the case with the Muslims, it must also be the case with the Israelis since they signed the Oslo accords and allowed Arafat to return and allowed autonomous areas and the establishment of the Palestinian Authority and a police force and an independent judiciary.. What was all that about... Are you suggesting that the Israeli are acting just like your hated Muslims?
     
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    Seems to me we've seen this paranoid garbage from you before. If you can't debate without assuming everyone but yourself is an idiot then perhaps this isn't the right forum for you.
     

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