New Covid-19 Research has Stunning Findings!

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  1. Horhey

    Horhey Well-Known Member

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    Americans are dying at a rate over 17 times higher than Europeans and Canadians. The US has 4% of the world's population and 25% of the cases. Coronovirus deaths have are at 150,000 in the US.

    Worst of all, 3/4 people who caught Covid and recovered have permanent heart damage. The kind "typically found in patients who had a heart attack."

     
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    So basically like a bad flu?

    *yawn*
     
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    You are not serious.
     
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    Serious flu, but just a flu.
     
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    No, it is most assuredly not just a flu.
     
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    Who would have thought SARS-CoV-2 would affect the heart like other viral infections? Stunning. The flu can cause myocardial inflammation in up to 10% of studied influenza cases. And only a small fraction of influenza cases are even reported, let alone studied.

    Texas Heart Institute research concludes this:
    The source of above quote.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC387426/

    I’m not sure why people act all surprised when viruses do what viruses have always done. :)
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    As deadly serious as the seasonal flu is vastly more deadly than the ChiFlu.
     
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    Except you're wrong. You're passing off wishful thinking as objective information, like so many others are right now. The death rate combined with those who survived it but are left with lingering and chronic health problems elevate this above just a seasonal flu.

    Stop trying to come at this with politics. You're forced to downplay it, but in order to do so, you have to be wrong. Is it more important to be loyal than to be wrong?
     
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    You must have me confused with someone who isn't logical.

    ChiFlu: Much less deadly than seasonal flu
     
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    What flu season had 150,000 deaths in 5 months?
     
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    Any confusion was removed when you repeated your senseless claim.

    COVID deaths in the U.S. just this year have already overtaken even the most serious seasonal flu seasons.

    It did that in May.

    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

    Death rate in the U.S. stands 3.4%, much higher than seasonal flu.

    Here you can compare stats.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html
     
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    You are expressing objectively inaccurate information - why?
     
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    Logic would dictate that you be willing to back up your claims with at least some type of data. You are not capable though, are you?
     
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    ~ Why ..? Politics.. .
     
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    ^^^ Name the fallacy. :)
     
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    Incorrect.
     
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    Logic would dictate your educating yourself when you're ready to do so; illogical to attempt to virtually force-feed anyone on a starvation diet regarding reason. :) I don't think we're supposed to make it personal, but you knew this didn't you?
     
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    It is possible and even probable that the US death count is higher than Europeans and Canadians because our books are cooked while the Canadians and EU books are not covered.

    As for the 3 out of 4 having heart damage seems specious. Many of the people infected never made it into the stat book, and were never hospitalized or even examined by a doctor. How can they possibly include those into the 3 out of 4 stat?

    Sounds very much like plain old-fashioned fear-mongering, but with a virus engineered for gain of function, who really knows.

    Have not seen Jimmy Dore in the fear-monger role before.
     
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    Yes because he's part of the scheme.
     
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    Other flus and colds are caused by a corona virus. How is this corona virus different?

    It's not different.
     
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    The 2017-2018 flue season ( 3 months long ) killed 80,000+ Americans. With a vaccine available.
     
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    please please please do NOT rely on “Sum bloke on da u tubes” for your information without reviewing the study he is citing for yourself

    Remember this you tube is generally as reliable and honest as a used car salesman in a recession
     
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    It is different because it is objectively more contagious and objectively more lethal and it is NOVEL.
     
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    No, the estimate from the CDC is that it killed 61,000 across the entire year. And that is based on a mathematical modeling that estimated the number of deaths created by the flu.

    If you counted flu deaths in the same way that covid-19 deaths are being counted, i.e. a medical practitioner determined that covid-19 played a causal role in their death, then the 2017-2018 flu season killed around 15,500 Americans.

    Covid-19 has killed 150,000+ thus far and more than 1,000 are dying every day.
     
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