NEW GOP HEALTHCARE PLAN EXEMPTS CONGRESS FROM CHANGES TO OBAMACARE

OBAMACARE is a disaster for ALL Americans, but GOP bill originators opted to keep it for members of Congress. . . . Just as they opted to continue receiving their pay during government shutdowns.

How do they REALLY view the ACA, and do they see us as THAT STUPID???

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/330592-house-gop-health-bill-changes-exempt-members-of-congress

 

the GOP mainline view is that it's inefficient and not affordable at the national level

 

Correction: The GOP OFFICIAL view. . . . But Congress ALWAYS insists on the best for itself.

The ACA would've been successful had it not been for the GOP's all-out agenda to sabotage it.

 

Is NOBODY indignant about this??? REALLY???

 

Why would you try and pass a bill that effects the entire nation without removing parts that could be personally disagreeable to the individuals who are voting on it.

Even Bill Clinton has talked about how poorly designed the ACA is.

 

The ACA is actually a pretty good bill, or at least it was until the GOP blackmailed Obama into using the individual mandate. The original bill was simple. It had everything Obamacare has, except that it expanded Medicaid into a full public option insurance company which would be funded by FICA taxes. The FICA cap would be raised to $1,000,000, and you only got public coverage if you couldn't afford private insurance. If you could afford private insurance, but chose not to use it, you were told to **** off and die.

 

ACA never had a chance, and it wasn't designed to succeed.

 

It is disagreeable because the cost-containment provisions have been attacked and compromised, and because of negative propaganda which had actually been circulating prior to its conception. . . . Why does Congress want to keep it for itself???

Would you endorse ANYTHING Bill Clinton said that did not support your case???. . . . I'd like to see that link, anyway.

 

No different from the Democrats. Don't forget that establishment Democrats and establishment Republicans are both members of the ISB fraternity. (InSide the Beltway.) GOP reside on the east (right) side and Dems on the west (left) side of the frat house.

 

Your UNSUBSTANTIATED opinion, which will win you accolades from the right; otherwise not noteworthy and devoid of credibility.

 

. . . . And how would that in any way be relevant to this discussion???

 

You say that just because spin impresses.

 

Pointing out that the criticism was against the GOP but Dems are in the same boat.

 

Second-guessing my intent does not validate your opinion.

 

Do the Dems want to repeal the ACA???

 

The point was the GOP plan is going to exempt congress in case you missed it.

 

It's a GOP plan; Dems had no part in drafting it, nor do they endorse it.

 

A disaster for all Americans? What about the 25 million people who gained healthcare coverage because of Obamacare medicare expansion and subsidies? What about the sick and people with preexisting conditions who gained access to healthcare they can now afford?

Trumpcare is the worst. It uninsures 25 million people bring in the uninsured back to 50 million by cutting medicare and subsidies to pay for tax cuts for the rich. It ends the individual mandate which means many young and healthy will just leave and will mean that those who remain will be older, sicker, and more expensive. It doesn't actually fix the fundamental cost of healthcare.

 

I'm sorry, I was quoting the GOP perspective; I should've clarified that.

 

My bad. I should have read your post more carefully.

 

Sorry, but the original ACA legislation had Medicaid over-rides built in for some Democratic Congressmen who had large publicly funded hospitals within their districts.. That alone proves without a doubt that the Dems knew from the start that the numbers didn't balance and the reimbursement flow was going to be curtailed by Obama minded bureaucrats.

Then Gruber ran his mouth about the how the voters were fooled. Gruber's exact words were, "The stupidity of the American voters."

Meanwhile, the new initiative does not cut Medicare. It actually provides a more stable direct census reimbursement flow.

 

If you're smart you can figure out why Congress would want to keep something that's issue is overall cost to itself.

"WHY ARE THESE POLITICIANS SUPPORTING SPENDING MONEY ON THEMSELVES??? IT MAKES NO SENSE!"

So because I don't like Obamacare I therefore must tow the Republican party line on every issue?

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/299130-bill-clinton-slams-obamacare

 

ARE YOU KIDDING??? WHY ALL THIS TALK ABOUT "DRAINING THE SWAMP"???

Liberals AND conservatives are fed up with lawmakers passing legislation to benefit themselves at taxpayers' expense, while being rewarded by their benefactors for getting the general public to accept low-cost substandard benefits for itself and subjecting it to corporate exploitation.

It is indeed laudable that you are an independent thinker, but it is wise to consider options before jumping out of a leaking boat in the middle of the ocean. . . . Medicare had many problems in the beginning that were corrected, and now is ALMOST universally defended (by all but the economically overprivileged). The GOP AHCA is a step backwards.

From your own link:

Bill Clinton’s spokesman Angel Urena defended the comments in a statement, arguing that parts were “taken out of context.”

“President Clinton spoke about the importance of the Affordable Care Act and the good it has done to expand coverage for millions of Americans,” Urena said. “And while he was slightly short-handed, it's clear to everyone, including President Obama, that improvements are needed.”

 

Congress exempts itself from virtually every law it passes that effect us, the great unwashed. Nothing to see here.

 

We really should work to disallow having Congress make special allowances for itself. If they're acting in the best interest of the country, why the need to put in place special provisions just for them? As a general rule, they need to live with the things they put in place for the rest of us.

The ACA is not affordable, and doesn't provide a very good level of care. Other than that, it's just fine.

Agreed. It's the proverbial camel's nose in the door of the tent...

Yes. The ISB fraternity is the source of much of the problem.