New poll: 83% of African Americans say Trump is a racist

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  1. Jonsa

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    Not then, they were nothing more then a tractor is now or a horse then to pull a plow.. Get an education and couple it with the reality of the time ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    Not really.
    "In hopes of getting financial assistance and more qualified teachers, African Americans in Sharpsburg and many other communities turned to the federal government’s Bureau of Refugees, Freedmen, and Abandoned Lands. Established by Congress in March 1865 , this agency was commonly known as the Freedmen’s Bureau. Since the underfunded Bureau had limited money and staff to devote to building schools, it worked with Northern benevolent organizations and African American communities to place Northern teachers in freedpeople’s schools in the Southern and border states. Northern benevolent organizations such as the American Missionary Society and the American Freedmen’s Union Commission recruited and paid teachers. The Freedmen’s Bureau then assigned the teachers to schools and provided them with transportation. The local African American community typically contributed room and board for the teacher as well as a building to house the school."
    https://www.nps.gov/articles/africa...econstruction-the-tolson-s-chapel-schools.htm
     
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    You do realize when slavery was brought to America, right? You are stuck in the civil war era!

    Look, you are the one boasting to be a History Teacher, so at least TRY and live up to the claim ;) ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    Reconstruction era. It's because I'm talking about the time when slavery was outlawed across the country, and the effect it had on producing citizenship and its effect then on political segregation, and how white people dominated black people after reconstruction. It's like saying slavery was motivated by Spanish needs for a plantation system, so let's talk about De Las Casas. It's off topic to what's being discussed.
     
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    NEW POLL

    82% of African Americans say


    NOT BLACK PEOPLE ARE RACISTS.



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  7. Robert E Allen

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    83% of African Americans are wrong...
     
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    Well, this is only my personal opinion mind you!

    But what you consider Reconstruction was nothing more then the North toppling the cotton kings of the south! The emancipation of the Blacks was just a economic attack on the cotton farmers and their chief means of labor.. The south were far more wealthy then the north and the northern politician knew that the south had to be dismantled economically in order to have them surrender and end the succession movement.. The war on slavery was just one propaganda used to unite northern citizens to finance the plan, politicians never actually cared about the education, treatment or freeing the slave!

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    Here is the two biggest reason why the Northern Politician went to war!

    Cotton Is King

    Secession of the South from the Union
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    Map of the Union and Confederate States in the American Civil War

    At that time "COTTON" was the U.S. and England's economy, and the South owned it all.. The emancipation of the Blacks was nothing more then creating cannon fodder and descension withing the southern states.. As I mentioned earlier, after war, and the south fell in to line with the north, the starving uneducated, never been off the farm migrated right back to where they were confortable, plantation life..
     
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    So forming a caucus to advance the legislative interests of black people and other people with similar interests racist to you? That's what the CBC does. There are hundreds of caucuses and organizations for various ethnic groups and interests. Black people are going to have them. If that were racist, then why does Donald Trump meet with them? Surely, he wouldn't if it were racist for the CBC to exist.

    Some people may have mocked Ms. Ryan's complaints. Others supported her. At the end of the day, her radio demographic probably supported her and she kept her job. So, I'm not sure why you think she made a stupid move. She reminded people how certain behaviors in the workplace can be perceived negatively.
     
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    Absolutely. The reporter missed a great opportunity by falling into the identity politics cesspool.
     
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    I can't tell if you're being serious or trying to troll. Either way I don't care about how wrong this interpretration is. You keep leap frogging all over the place like you have a coherent point. You tried this approach yesterday, and I said very good job noticing the importance of the economy. You just failed to make the connection between economics and politics for black people.
     
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    That would apply only if the ~17% who dont think trump is a racist would vote for him. And given that this poll found 90% disapprove of his job performance, that seems unlikely.
     
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    I do not apologize for my "means nothing" opinion shattering your world view to the point where your only retort is to demand that I prove my opinion.

    But thanks for calling my theory great.
     
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    It will be interesting to compare this poll with actual results from the next election.

    My local area is not in jive with the poll. According to our local fish wrapper.

    My money says trump will get record numbers of black votes for the GOP. For I trust local data much more than national data. Harder to affect local polling. I always assume national data done by the establishment to be affected and inaccurate.

    So lets see how it works out after the election .
     
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    I start at the beginning and give actual facts about what the reconstruction era after the civil war and what the war was really about.. You think it was all about Blacks, when they were actually irrelevant other then to choke off their "South" economic dominance and defiance of the north and their growing unwanted constitution.. You oddly have a very narrow view of all things associated with the reason for civil war and what was most important part of the reconstruction period.. It hardly had anything to do with freeing or educating the slaves, if it had they would have never been left to starve OR return to their plantations and essentially compensated the very same as before emancipation!
     
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    You read the quotes of the blacks they interviewed in the OP article and you go WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. This has been the best economy for minorities and the lower income groups in modern if not all our our economic history. Then they go on about how they know how white people don't know what it's like to be black while saying they a black person what's it's like to white.
    Let's hope all this talk goes out the window when they enter the voting booth and then see how the results turn out compared to what they tell exit pollers.
     
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    All of the States had Jim Crow laws.
     
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    83 percent of those black folks polled may have voiced that but I doubt 83 percent of black Americans believe trump to be a racist. I give black folks more credit.

    The stats post election will not match this poll imo. Unless my locality is an anomaly. And I doubt that.
     
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    That would depend on the alternative. And people are prone to voicing their displeasure even while engaging in that which they disapprove, be it politicians, associations, entertainment, food, clothes, etc.
     
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    It is your criminal IMPOTUS that is DUMBER than a box of rocks!
     
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    ASSUMING that "10% gain" is real that translates into just 1.2% of the electorate. Between 2016 and 2020 his PRIMARY support demographic will DECLINE by 2.3% which is TWICE as much that assumption.
     
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    By what data and whose measure? Since his election, my support and confidence in him has increased due to his job performance. In fact, he has proven himself to be a far better President than the man Americans knew going in. So I question your numbers that his primary support is waning. BTW, this topic is about whether Trumps support among blacks is increasing or decreasing.
     
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    That makes no sense. Why would racists abandon a racist party to join a party that isn't racist for the sake of furthering their own racist goals? It'd be like whacking your thumb with a hammer because you don't like pain.
     
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