New poll reveals how most Americans feel about Confederate statues

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  1. Zorro

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    Yup!
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    Yeah, you're right. On top of that they're not even native Americans. They're the 'first' Americans. They weren't born here.
     
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    Thanks for reprinting the "cornerstone" speech. That does change things.
    However, I've known and worked with plenty of southerners, and I have never once met a racist or white supremist. I think they want to distance themselves from that history. I think you should let them.
     
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    Hopefully the liberal leftists keep doing this nonsense. There is no doubt that the Dems have lost the entire South for the foreseeable future based on the insanity of trying to erase history. Did anybody see the story in the LA Times today about the USC Trojan Horse that opens every football game being named 'Traveler'.......heck, at this point California may be in play. Who the heck wants to be associated with a party led by Maxine Waters, Pocahontas, Pelosi......and people that believe a horse that died 150 years ago was 'racist'.......LMAO
     
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    Good point. On top of that they're not native Americans. They're 'first' Americans. They weren't born here.
     
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    OK, I just have to ask ...

    Where the heck do you think they were born?
     
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    I think that when they march with swastikas and emblems of the South, demanding racial supremacy for themselves they are making their position quite clear.

    I'm not sure how one could possibly mistake that. They worked so hard to communicate their hate - who they hate, how much, what they want to do about it, etc.

    And, of course there is the fact of racist policy, such as the work done to gerrymander in such a way as to deprive those they hate of their constitutional right to equal protection under the law. I mention that only to point out that it isn't as if somebody came in from out of town - these states make LAWS demanding racial supremacy for whites.

    Those folks you meet don't have to express hate to you. There isn't some white nationalist by-law about that.
     
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    Do you accept the CSA statements of belief that the Negro is not equal to the white man, and that the natural and normal position of a negro is that of being a slave?
     
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    No......why, do you? Not sure that anyone except blacks and Muslims in Africa have such ideas in the 21st century.....
     
  10. JakeJ

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    Historian Eric Foner observed: "In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who desired restoration of white supremacy. Its purposes were political, but political in the broadest sense, for it sought to affect power relations, both public and private, throughout Southern society. It aimed to reverse the interlocking changes sweeping over the South during Reconstruction: to destroy the Republican party's infrastructure, undermine the Reconstruction state, reestablish control of the black labor force, and restore racial subordination in every aspect of Southern life.[59] To that end they worked to curb the education, economic advancement, voting rights, and right to keep and bear arms of blacks.[59] The Klan soon spread into nearly every southern state, launching a "reign of terror against Republican leaders both black and white. Those political leaders assassinated during the campaign included Arkansas Congressman James M. Hinds, three members of the South Carolina legislature, and several men who served in constitutional conventions".
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan
     
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    Well they had to be moved they were 'neck ed'.
     
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    Confederate monuments (like ALL monuments) should be left alone anywhere they do not offend people in public. Removing something from out of public view is pointless....just don't go there.
     
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    Their DNA suggests they started in Siberia. Thousands of years later they crossed the Bering Straits into Alaska. It seems the only group that disagrees with this are the people called the American Indians.
     
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    We all know what this is about. The promotion of division by the left, hate is secondary and a important ingredient but without division the democrats have no platform to advance socialism and the fine euro trash way of life.

    What is the population of the US? What is the population of the KKK? What is the population of the LGBTXYZ and all the other veriaty or flavor of miniority?

    Progs need all of them and keep them on the plantation of division......dare not stray.
     
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    Guess who said this :)

    I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, [applause] ... I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will for ever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be a position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.
     
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    This is about Democrats trying to bury their past. The last thing they want is people seeing statues, googling the history, and seeing what role Democrats had both in the slave issue and the ensuing KKK, segregationists, anti-civil rights movements, and all sorts of unsavory Democrat activities...
     
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    Yes, for more than 10,000 years they were born here.

    What was going on in Europe 10,000 years ago - 8,000 BC?
     
  18. WillReadmore

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    I'm not sure what your point is here.

    My understanding is that Lincoln's primary objective was that of holding the nation together. Plus, the political situation before the election was that of the Dred Scott decision and consideration of the Missouri Compromise - where the issue was slavery, not just inequality. Any politician calling for equality at that time in Illinois (or much of the rest of the country) would have been political toast, and we would never even hear who they were.
     
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    One would hope that our education system would prevent that kind of nonsense.
     
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    Seriously? History has been one of the biggest victims of liberalism, they don't want anyone to know their past...
     
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    Who is "THEY"? Do you believe that all those WSers were southerners? There aren't that many; they are a crazy fringe.

    Don't paint all southerners or all whites with that brush. That would make you a bigot and a racist!
     
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    OK, I have to stop you right there.

    The white nationalist movement is there for one reason only - to create a major divide. That IS their stated objective.

    Your idea that opposing such division, that pushing for equality, is the same as striving for division is just plain ludicrous.
     
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    Are you trying to suggest that the Republican party is interested in increasing focus on history and civics in k12 education???
     
  24. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    They didn't become citizens until 1924 and it was in the late 1940s after WWII that all of them finally became citizens so they were hardly "native Americans" or "first Americans".
     
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    The racists imposed them on everyone else when they dumped them in public view. It's time for people in 2017 America to throw them into the trash can of forgotten memories.
     

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