New Zealand mosques: Several dead after shootings in Christchurch

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    There are "multiple fatalities" after shootings at two mosques in the city of Christchurch, police in New Zealand have confirmed.

    Three men and one woman are in custody, police commissioner Mike Bush told a news conference.

    Witnesses told local media they ran for their lives, and saw people bleeding on the ground outside the Al Noor mosque.

    Authorities advised all mosques to shut down until further notice. All Christchurch schools are on lockdown.

    In a statement to the nation, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said details were not yet clear, "but I can tell you now - this will be one of New Zealand's darkest days".

    Mohan Ibrahim, who was in the area of the Al Noor mosque, told the New Zealand Herald: "At first we thought it was an electric shock but then all these people started running.

    "I still have friends inside. "

    I have been calling my friends but there are many I haven't heard from. I am scared for my friends lives." It is not yet known how many shooters there were, but the Herald reports that one gunman is believed to be an Australian who has written a manifesto outlining his intentions. In it, he espouses far-right ideology and anti-immigrant ideology.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47578798
     
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    A manifesto, indeed, and by the looks of much of it he may as well have hung out here taking notes.
     
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    I haven't read that manifesto but have seen the condensed version. No surprise that they're a supporter of Trump. He attracts him mass murdering extreme RW types.
     
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    NZ PM Ardern has confirmed 40 dead and over 20 in serious condition in hospital.

    At least 3 people in custody, one of them Australian born. It is not clear at this stage if more offenders are at large, but much of Christchurch is on lockdown. The offenders constructed IEDs but did not detonate them before they could be disarmed.

    The Bangladesh cricket team was at one of the mosques. They escaped unharmed. Their team bus was used to ferry wounded to hospital.
     
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    And we now have to add the possibility that this was designed to inspire revenge attacks to our CT calculations.
     
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    Absolutely disgusting. These people need to be held accountable and not innocent scapegoats. Life in prison without parole and reform the justice system to permit the death penalty in exceptional cases such as this.

    Violence is not acceptable conduct. Period.

    Thank God they were unable to detonate their IEDs.
     
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    Jesus! 40 dead and it appears that this maniac live streamed this mass shooting for 17 minutes. This reminds me a lot of the Norwegian mass shooting in 2011 where Anders Behring Breivik who considered himself a hero who was going to stop what he considered a Muslim invasion into Norway killed 77 people he believed were sympathetic to Muslim immigration. I have a feeling that were going to see more of these enraged white men taking matters into their own hands of what they consider an attack on their culture.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12213076

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks

    This could happen in the United States one of these days.
     
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    Muslims in Christchurch? Very symbolic, very symbolic.
    The cancer of Islam has spread all over the world. This has got to stop somewhere.
    There are no Christians and Buddhists in Mecca.
     
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    .....and right on cue the 'Brevik Brigade' on PF show up. Few will have the personal courage to actively support the terrorists, but their intent will be crystal clear. 'If Muslims get killed it is their own fault'. Seen it all before.

    If anyone wants to understand the profoundly diseased mental state that produces such killers there is no need to head of to self-described far right websites. Just hang here for a while and you'll get as much exposure as you can stomach.
     
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    Maniacal white supremacists in Christchurch is what non terrorist supporters see but the symbolism in your post is clear enough.


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    Just yesterday I wrote one of the major laws in nature - you will be treated the way you treat others. If Muslims resent others they will be resented too.

    And remember, countries like New Zealand and America are what their are mainly because of Christianity and Christian culture. Not because of multiculturalism and certainly not because of Islam.
     
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    Do not peek behind the curtain.

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    Brevik Brigade, are you saying you don't see a similarity between this attack and what happened in Norway. Both of these killers had the same motivation, which was Muslims they had deemed were starting to take over. I think you can see what Muslim ideology has done to the Middle East and some people are getting more and more uneasy about the spread of Islam into other countries and taking over.
     
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    Oh! Go........

    Mean spirited nasty comment

    New Zealand like Australia has people from all over the world and they LIVE IN PEACE!! I work with Muslims, Taoists, Catholics. Indigeneous, Hindi, Seventh day Adventist’s you name it and we ALL GET ALONG!!!
     
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    Just the fact that someone's trying to blame t h.g e victim mns of a terrorist attack rather than the terrorist is sickening.
     
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    And if you see the story I started earlier in this forum you will see why. A group of trolls from Eastern Europe have been making money on Facebook posting Right Wing clickbait

    And judging from the odious posts on this thread it has affect more than a few
     
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    Agreed - some of the posts here have made me want to throw up in my mouth
     
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    It makes you wonder what you can do in the world to balance such evil
     
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    Where is the difference between Islamist scum making a terror attack at us and those white, Islam hating racist scum making a terror attack like this? There is no difference, both are evil cancer!
    Where is the difference between Islamist scum who welcome these terror attacks and white islam hating racist scum welcoming these terror attacks as now? There is no difference, both are evil cancer!

    So ... nice to read when white racist cancer calls Islam to be cancer!

    My proposal ... all these white racist cancer scum to drop by parachute over ISIS area in hope to be caught by this scum ... and that this white racist scum is then beheaded in front of the camera with the knife or burned alive in a cage etc. Then this subhuman scum finally kills simply other subhuman scum ... and not innocent people, no matter of what religion!
     
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    Well said, Bowerbird. I'm gobsmacked at the vile blaming of victims of a terrorist attack I've just seen.
     
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    Perhaps you should know then, they are docile only if they are a small minority. Once they start to multiply, the demands grow like an avalanche. Shia Muslims even have a special doctrine called Taqiya (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya) which allows the Muslim to lie to and deceive the infidel. Read it, it's interesting.

    Islam is a culture of dominance and totalitarianism. The word comes from "total", meaning the system controls and regulates every step you move, including the hand that you wipe your ass with.
     
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    For trumpkins confused about what to post:

    Should keep you chugging along until the influencers have finagled a bad faith line for you to follow along to.
     
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    I'm not a fan of Godwin, so I wont go there. But ask someone who's done Genocide Studies to sit you down and patiently explain to you about the 8 stages of genocide. You just nailed #1 and #4. I'd explain but I'm far too disgusted by what you're saying in your posts to trust myself not to break some forum rules trying to explain it.
     

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