Next slap for Trump: EU and Japan sign JEFTA!

Congratulations! You are now firmly on both sides of the issue.

 

Thanks.
I don't think I'll be the only person to have thought of it.

As a net importer, the maths allows for this.
America can do the same.

Not sure if WTO rules allow for this however.
Maybe, maybe not.

Subsidies may have to be less obvious. But the money is there.

 

If the ObamaMobiles are made in America and exported to germany then I wish them well

 

With or without services... the trade balance is there. And that is what matters.

There is virtually no EU tariff for cars made in Japan. How did that happen?

Europe doesn't want SUV's.

 

It happened easily because the EU and Japan have balanced trade. No tariffs are required.

I live in Europe. SUV's are very popular here.
I'd like one.

Chelsea Tractors we call them.

 

Yes, the trade balance is there and if services are included, the US has suddenly no deficit anmore, but a surplus! Strange, isn't it?

Lol ... currently are the same 10% tariff on every imported Japanese car in the EU. When JEFTA starts, there will be no tariff!

Where did you read this nonsense please?

http://carsalesbase.com/european-sales-2017-premium-midsized-compact-suv-segments/

"Sales of midsized premium SUVs in Europe continue to boom with a fourth consecutive year of double digit growth, of which the last three years showed at least 20% growth. In 2017, the segment grew by 21% to a record 492.500 sales, or 3,2% of the overall European car market, up from 2,7% in 2016." ....

 

Depends on the demand in the US ...
CEO's are not interested in national things in the least, only money and profit is interesting! If the need is high enough to financially justify a relocation to the US because of the 10%, then yes. If not, then no.

For this reason, BMW is currently thinking about a partial shift from the US to China, because the Chinese countermeasure with punitive tariffs on cars "Made in the USA" hits BMW noticeably in the SuV sector!

 

No, it's not about a poor Germany, etc. ...

Meanwhile, I'm so upset about this * peep * in the White House, that I want to have a Trade War with the US ... that the US has already started with us ... and I agree to punish the US!
I am for an alliance of EU, China, Japan, Canada and Mexico ... from me too humble with Russia against the US in this trade war to disgrace the US here so that they start to think normal again without silly ignorance and arrogance!
This time, the US has to bow to the will of the world and that is a new experience for the US ... because the US is only accustomed to the other subordinate to the wishes of the United States.

 

And as usual BMW will have to turn over its technology to the chinese and teach them how to build workd class cars

 

nope, china didn't demand joint venture this time, on BMW or tesla. They already has most auto tech for the past decade due to joint venture.

 

Go for it mate, we all know you've been looking for the excuse.

You started the trade war long ago. You have maintained it until America had no choice but to hit back.....
Trap laid, trap sprung, now all you have to do is cry "victim" and unite the world in your dream of war vs America.

P.S. When your dream comes true, they will nuke you and we will all laugh.


I hadn't really had you down as an anti American to be honest
You've always struck me as being smart, honest and friendly by nature.
But i recognise that it is a common enough sentiment.
It's not a real shock to me that you should feel this way.

Be wary of alliances, when push comes to shove not everyone who claims alliance with you will show up, and some... will show up on the other side.
Nature of the beast.
Invest in some nukes for your country. Give yourself a fighting chance and the others reason to fear you.
You aren't in a strong position militarily or economically to pick fights right now.
Build a serious military and grow a sustainable domestic marketplace before you start any fights. That is your best chance.

Neither American nor Russians will ever bow to the world.
It is not in their nature to do so.
If you try and make them, they will attack you.
That button you wish to press, it is their war button and they will flatten you.

Americans are easy. Tell them how much better they are than you, and they will love you and do anything for you.
Tell them you are better than them and they will hate you and seek to prove to you different..

 

For what should I seek an apology? There is absolutely nothing for which I, the EU or even my country have to apologize ... on the contrary: we can demand a bunch of apologies from others if we wanted to.

We did not even begin the trade war, which was started exclusively by Trump. You mean because of the tariffs, which are allegedly all higher than those in the US? I do not laugh ... because that's a total fairytale!

a) the Americans reckon that everything is out of the trade balance, which is bullshit. Including services, the US has a trade surplus ... so just shut up and be ashamed for the allegations my dear Americans!
b) Again and again, the BS comes with a 10% tariff on cars in the EU, which is four times that of the US. Only ... this 10% has been around for half a century and this 10% is not just on US brands, but on anything that's made outside the EU .... even German cars that are sold in the US or Mexico or in China or wherever manufactured and then go to the EU have 10% tariff!
Funny, that then sell at the same 10% tariff better than the US cars, eh?

It was the US that forced free world trade and all that they wanted and others. Now that the others are making it smarter than the US, they want to turn the wheel back ... and that with measures that if being used by others, then called to be as bad socialist and communist.

I'm always honest, at least I try to be as far-flung as possible (100% honesty can not be found anywhere) ... and when I look at this mountain of lies, false claims and allegations, and even impudence from Trump, then you get ** *** (censored). I'd give it a crap if he just did it all with his Americans, but when he starts pounding half the world into chaos, then the Red Line is over.

And then we have this hypocrisy and arrogance shown here very often. Anti American? No, I'm not ... but if it's anti-American to show this US hypocrisy, ignorance, incompetence and mendacity clearly with facts and evidence, or to fight US allegations ... ok, then I'm anti -American and can live very well with it!

 

This is the most likely outcome.
The chances of this are greatly reduced however if foreign counties believe that Americans will undermine Trump from within.
Those people trying to **** Trump, essentially are willing to sacrifice the national interest to do so.

When people accuse them of being America haters, traitors or not patriots, they basically aren't far wrong.
It's a case of if you won't let me rule, I will screw things up for everyone just to prove how screwed up things get when I am not in charge.

 

You don't have to apologise.
You set protectionist policies to self advantage yourself against your competition and it worked.
Now they are doing the same thing, they don't have to apologise to you either.

You are going to try and punish them, because you are used to having it all your own way and you wish to keep it that way. You feel that you will be able to by the use of force/market domination.

And they are going to smash you stupid because it is your intention to screw them over.

No apologies are required.
You act in yourself interests, they act in theirs.

Make all the demands you like, you aren't in a position strong enough for anyone to wish to appease you.

 

Possible and I do not want to exclude ... also happened Apple, eh? ... but that is the other sick on the American management principle what we stupidly took over from you: If that happens or should happen at some point, then the current CEO of BMW is already No longer with BMW and then CEO of the next Group / Corporation! In short: He does not care anymore then and gives a damn and crap on it ...