No 2nd Amendment for Blacks?

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  1. Phyxius

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    Your post proves the point in this video commentary. Again, THANK YOU!

     
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    I can't connect the dots with the video.

    But since he's talking about law enforcement...
    I've worked off and on with BLM Rangers for over 45 years. Before 2009 BLM Rangers carried a .357 Mag revolver and sometimes had a bolt action rifle in their vehicle to deal with rabid critters.

    Under the Obama administration BLM Rangers started carrying black scary looking M-4's carbines and even had their own SWATT.

    But it went beyond that.

    Every executive branch of the government under Obama ended up with their own federal police force with their own SWATT including the Department of Human Health and Service, Department of Education and the Department of Labor.

    Here's what Obama and other Marxist and community organizers are advocating...There should be no local police, county sheriff or state police. That only the federal government should have any law enforcement authority. One federal police force to police the entire nation.
     
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    Well, no they don't but I understand why you need to convince yourself this is so.

    according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008.
     
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    My point in bringing up Bundy and the Black Panthers in CA is that both groups were exercising their 2nd Amendment in the manner for which our founding father intended. It is sad to see black groups like the NAACP pushing to eliminate the 2nd amendment rights of black people. This is something I don't understand. It is encouraging that the fastest growing demographic for gun ownership is black women, but it is unlikely IMHO this gun ownership translates into gun owning blacks not voting for dimocrats.
     
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    More white people shot by the police than black people.
     
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    It runs with per capita crime rates for the most part, but there are some horrifying instances where cops appear to shoot people, regardless of race, just in case. And there is no punishment for it. 2 recents on my mind: one of a kid, on all fours, begging for his life in shorts and a tee shirt in a hotel hallway, shot dead. Just in case. Unarmed. Another was a swatting. The body cam the shooter cop had? I couldn't even make out the victim. No way do I believe this cop thought the guy a threat. Too disturbing for me to post but you can see them on youtube.
     
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    I think he made that part up. Police admitted, he wasn't "brandishing" the weapon. Waving it about in a threatening manner, but he did have it in his hand.
     
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    Which is stupid considering the circumstances, he was a soldier, he knows he needs to identify himself.
    Just carrying a gun in that situation, when nobody knows who he is, is suicide.

    I doubt the family will win a case against it, but may get a settlement anyways.
     
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    I wouldn't dispute for a second that cops are too quick to shoot. I only dispute the racism of cop claims. They are too often hot head wanna be Rambo types. That guy who shot that kid groveling on the hotel floor should have never been a cop. A wannabe Rambo type on steroids.
    And I think more whites are shot by police because 70 something percent of the population is white, and not because of the per capita crime rates.
     
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    In the last two weeks, two "good guys with a gun" have been killed by officers. How many white "good guys with a gun" have been killed in the last few months (not couple of weeks). I have not read of any this year or past years
     
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    I’m betting they would ban AR15s just as fast as if all white people were carrying one strapped over their shoulders. That would be insane, and I fail to see it as a black / white issue. Kind of a silly hypothetical example, if you ask me. But typical of the left, to break everything down to race.
     
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    I don't think 70% of such shootings are of white people though. Due to income disparities (I think) black people are more likely to engage in crime than whites, and this over representation makes it into being over represented in getting shot by the cops. But your Rambo comment is spot on and horrifying. Training isn't going to change this. We need accountability. Cop on youtube posted his thoughts on the hallway shooting explaining why he thought it a good shooting. Deranged.
     
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    If, in fact they did happen, you won't hear about it.
    It's only news when they can make it racist.
     
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    Perhaps you can post one example of an officer shooting dead a white "good guy with a gun"? All police shootings make the news
     
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    Considering there are over a thousand every year, I am pretty sure there are lots of white guys in there.
     
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    And we don't know what happened yet.
    Blacks have a way of thinking they have a different set of rules, when they are confronted with police.
     
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    Over a thousand "good guys with a gun" are shot by police?
     
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    If that was me, you can be sure when the police showed up, I would throw my gun to the ground and start waving my hands and shouting.
     
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    Over a thousand police shootings.
    We don't know what they are until you look them up.


    Besides, it's not even worth arguing about yet, we don't know what happened.
     
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    So you are saying that over a thousand people are killed by police every year but these killings do not make the news including those innocent white "good guys with a gun", is that really what you are saying?
     
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    Don't make up what I'm saying.

    This guy was a soldier, he should know better,
    Maybe he thought he was wearing his uniform.
    He knows if he is not wearing it, he could be subject to friendly fire.
    Nobody knows there is plainclothes in there.


    But, we don't know what happened yet.
     
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    That is what you wrote:
    You then wrote there was over a 1000 to my question "Perhaps you can post one example of an officer shooting dead a white "good guy with a gun"?

    You say that he should have known better but I though the whole point of a "good guy with a gun" was to draw your gun and go after the actual shooter

    Face the truth that any innocent person shot dead by police will make the news and we have two innocent armed black men killed in a mall/public shooting in two weeks but no records of an innocent armed white person being deliberately shot dead this year.
     
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    That's one of the risks you take when you choose to legally carry a handgun in public. It's a topic that comes up frequently in my gun forums- How do the cops tell the difference between a good guy with a gun in his hand and a bad guy with one. The answer is- they can't. The suggestion is to holster or drop your weapon if you're not actively engaged with a legit target, and certainly the moment LEOs show up. Lay down on the ground spread out your arms, and expect to get roughed up a bit until they straighten out who is who.

    That said, what this guy did was doubly stupid. He not only wasn't engaging a legit target, he was running away. With a gun IN HIS HAND. That's asking to be shot.

    I've discussed this several times with a cop friend of mine about a solution. We've come up with nothing. Actual LEOs have a "color of the day" which helps identify undercovers, but it's impractical to communicate that to CCW holders and not sure they want that info in the hands of civilians anyway. I thought about a badge, bracelet, necklace, or some other unique identifier issued by the State, The problem with that is that it won't take the bad guys long to catch on and disguise themselves as a good guy. I'm not sure there is a good answer, until we can get sights that put that magic red dot on bad guys and green one on good guys like in video games. Not holding my breath.
     
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    I'm wondering what the video will show.
    LOLOL
    we have over a thousand police shootings in death every year, and only a few make the news.
     

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