No Boeing 767 impacted the South Tower on 911

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  1. 7forever

    7forever Active Member

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    If you don't address what they said came over the bridge, then you're conceding THE ATC'S were correct, something, NOT FLIGHT 175 was spotted on radar coming over the bridge.

    Was that flight 175 coming over the Verrazano bridge or was that the ball that aired live three times?

    Varcadapane: He says to me, “As a matter of fact, do you see that target coming over the Verrazano Bridge.” I went over to the radar and looked at the radar. The Verrazano Bridge is depicted on the radar. And I looked over there and I saw the aircraft descending out of 4700 feet, 3600 feet, 2700 feet."

    Greg Callahan: And I could hear him calling on altitudes. “I have a target in sight, he’s descending rapidly.” And he said—“Look out to the southeast,” and the gentleman working ground control said, “Hey, who’s that by the Verrazano Bridge?” "And here comes a very large target descending rapidly, very fast." The skies over America - Dateline NBC | NBC News

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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    but truthers forced nist to agree with them, hows those debunker theories workin for ya? LOL
     
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    "The objective of disinformation is not to convince you of one point of view or another, it is to create enough uncertainty so that everything is believable and nothing is knowable. " -- James Fetzer"

    In nearly 13 years of debate, no conclusion has been officially reached.
    HOWEVER, in the battle for hearts & minds, there have been victories,
    and a few losses ... ( oh well ... )

    Before the courts can act, the issue must be decided by the public,
    because without the public on-board, its just not going to happen.

    get off the fence and embrace your position.
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  4. 7forever

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    Cloud was standing there, therefore his account trumps some unknown person. He doesn't have to be re-interviewed because he did see something that was consistent with the ball-shaped object. Can a plane not look like a plane from a mile away?


    "There was a police copter like near it...(I swear), I don't know what happen to him," This was Clifton's way of questioning whether he really saw a chopper.


    "Ya, the second one I'm tellin' ya..was...I didn't see a plane...I was watching it...I didn't see a plane.

    All I saw was a helicopter and I didn't see the helicopter anymore. It just looked like it exploded from the inside."

    "Ya, but I don't think it was a plane. No, because it happened like 20 minutes later. I think it was a bomb on the second building. I think they had that bomb in there and they were like alright let's maximize it. Hit it with a plane, and then hit the bomb."

    "There was a police copter like near it...I swear, I don't know what happen to him, but. But when the second one exploded there was a helicopter not too far away."

    "Ya, I tell you man, I saw it in slow motion, that second building just went boom, just exploded from the inside out, just like a movie, like a cheap movie which was really weird...it was like a 1970's Charleton Heston movie."

    "It was unbelievable, I mean it exploded from the inside, that second one."

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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Baloney...more drivel.
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Yeah, and the world is flat, yes, we get it, reality is not your thing.
     
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    How about
    the videos that allege to show the impact of "FLT175"
    are either fake, or the laws of physics have been violated.

    pick one .........
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    What 'laws' of physics were 'violated'?
     
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    You have been shown a video of an alleged airliner penetrating a wall,
    and not slowing down at all, and you have to ask?

    Has it really come down to this, that the masses are so brainwashed by TV
    that people actually have to ask such questions?
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    reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.
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    The ones they disagree with, that is how it works in the FarSide.
     
  11. 7forever

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    How would you prove the ball was a plane when it couldn't even be a fake image of a plane?

    It looks nothing like a plane or the fake images with missing wings. You are simply deluding yourself against video facts. The ball certainly couldn't be a real plane when it didn't even compare to these ridiculous fakes.

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    I see the tail, body and engines, maybe it is time you got some stronger glasses.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    What a convoluted non answer...I'll ask again,WHAT 'laws of physics' were 'violated'?
     
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    Did this jet slow down?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM8E-CogkYE

    Tell us "O Master of Physics". How much did the tail of the jet slow down?
     
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    You're daft...I can....EVERYONE CAN see the wings in those images.
     
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    The real world is a place you'll never participate in. You can thank your false beliefs for that. Let us all know when you figure out how to make a ball into a real plane with markings and windows.

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    Why is the sky brown? It wasn't brown on 9/11.
     
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    And if there were no wings,why do we see light glistening off them?
     
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    That's rich coming from you...you who have no hook to reality. Why can I see the wings as the plane flies over skyline? What else is causing the image on either side of the "globe" (ha!") to be affected as the plane crosses the screen? If there were no wings, why would that happen?

    Common sense, get some.
     
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    I don't know.
     
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    You don't know but yet, you said the sky was brown when you know it was not?...so why would you make that statement?
     
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    That's typical coming from you...you who have no hook to reality. You see the wings only in your head. If there were wings, then NO eyewitness standing beneath the towers would have said it was the size of a golfball. Here's at least one eyewitness who described the ball exactly how it was filmed. YOU GOT NOTHIN'.:oldman:

    Common sense, and facts, you have neither.

    As this terrified woman was running pell-mell away from the first collapsing tower — her hair, coat and feet on fire — Ms Ondrovic witnessed vehicles parked along the street spontaneously erupt into flames.

    She even witnessed an aircraft disappear while in flight: “I saw something in the sky, it was a plane, but it was way out. It looked like it was over Jersey or something, then it wasn’t there anymore. I saw a small fireball, and it was gone. I saw two other planes. One came in one way, and the other came in the other way, and there was a plane in the middle that was way far off in the distance. Then the plane in the middle just disappeared into a little fire ball. It looked like the size of a golf ball from where I could see it. And the other two planes veered off into opposite directions. I just kept on running north.” And she’s got a lot more to say. - See more at:

    Witnesses Saw People ?Vaporized? on 9/11 « Just Wondering ? Alternative News and Opinions

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    ANSWER THE QUESTION!

    Why can I see the wings as the plane flies over skyline? What else is causing the image on either side of the "globe" (ha!") to be affected as the plane crosses the screen? If there were no wings, why would that happen?
     
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    First truthful thing you've ever posted.
     
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    How would you know? All you seem to profess, is that the Kean reports is rock solid, right? You don't exactly have an open mid on the subject so, why try and argue logic with a closed mind?
     
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