No verdict on eighth day of U.S. abortion doctor deliberations

Weird post

Somehow in allowing women to abort late term for health reasons I am "enslaving them"????

There are so many unsupported fallacies in there I do not know where to start

 

At this rate pro-lifers are going to have to admit that their position 'enslaves' women, especially if they continually use that description against pro-choicers who are satisfied with the laws as they are (aka, restrictions for late term abortions).

 

Bowerbird said,

Nothing is weird about it.

No if you deny any woman who wants to abort for ANY REASON IN THE LATE TERM YOU ENSLAVE THEM. You take away their rights. Ask Pasi...who believes in total freedom for women whose position does not enslave women.

No there are not...you just don't get it.

People are under the assumption that every abortion clinic in the country meets basic health standards of what a medical facility should meet. They don't.

Here is one report from USA Today.

Here is another.

The Maryland Department of Health and Mental Hygiene (DOH) announced on Friday that of 16 abortion clinics inspected in the state, 12 of them have failed to meet the state’s safety regulations. The state's new regulations for abortion facilities went into effect in July of last year.

Here is one about a botched abortion...and infractions. Such nice abortionists. Racists.

FRom the Washington Post....

I could go on and on showcasing abortion clinics being shut down because of safe procedures.

 

No Pasithea....the pro-aborts that want restrictions are the ones who enslave women...by not wanting them to be able to make the choice of what to do with their bodies. I have no problem admitting that my position ties womans hands by not allowing abortion. No problem...I am proud to be anti-choice on this. Your proabort buds...won't admit that their positions enslaves. They are not like you...obviously you disagree on late term abortion. You don't enslave, they enslave but WON'T ADMIT IT.

Being satisfied with the laws......enslaves women. Bottom line it enslaves women....no other way around it. The position is anti-woman, anti-choice...it denies women freedom. I know you see it this way...you just won't admit it. Can't call out your friends on a hypocritical position.

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And the thing is....no doctor would do this to save the mothers life....they would take the child whole. This was an abortion and what abortion looks like at the hands of an abortionist who doesn't give a crap.

 

Care to provide evidence to support that, no of course you don't.

"Malachi" a 21 weeks fetus discovered in a clinic in Dallas, the famous photograph was taken around 1 month after the discovery by Rhonda Mackey. Apparently they videoed Dr. McCarty as he re-assembled the fetus, where it is reported he cried, though no evidence of this video has ever been seen.
What I find cynical about this, and other alleged abortion photo's, is the blatant usage purely for publicity to fuel the pro-life propaganda machine, with no thought to women, out there, who may believe this fetus was once their's, just how much physiological damage has been done .. but hey pro-lifers don't care about that, they want them to suffer.

There is no evidence that "Malachi" was anything other than an abortion performed purely on medical grounds, either for a life risk to the woman, or a disability incompatible with life, as no forensic examination was performed on the fetus after its discovery . it was re-assembled, photographed and buried .. purely, it would seem, to be used as a tool in the pro-life propaganda.

Things that bring this item into question are;

1. Why were no forensic tests performed on the fetus, surely IF this was to be found as a 'normal' fetus it would have added further ammunition to the pro-life cause, or were forensic's taken that showed the fetus had problems, which of course wouldn't fit with the pro-life agenda and were buried.
2. The fetus was left unattended for a month before the re-assembly and photographing, and no one knows how long the fetus has been "stored", when interviewed, Mr. Benham replied to the question "Was there a date on the jar or any way of knowing how long it had been stored?", he replied "no" - the fetus could have been there for any number of years, which could account for its condition.
3. Other questions arose. How did you know for sure that Malachi was not a miscarriage? How did you know the damage to the fetus did not come from simple decomposition, or the month that it was outside the freezer?
Mr. Benham said there was no doubt in his mind that the image captured the truth of abortion because Malachi was found at a clinic dedicated to abortions. He cited the mark by Malachi’s right ear. “You can see that, it’s forceps,” he said. Problem is those forceps marks could just as likely come from a forceps delivery of a fetus that died at birth. Correlation does not imply causation.
4. Mrs. Migliorino Miller acknowledged that not everyone in the anti-abortion movement was as careful. But with Malachi, she said, “There’s no way you can deny that’s a baby that suffered a trauma.”
For the cause, it works. “You have a whole baby,” she said. “That makes it a very valuable and powerful image.”. Really says it all.

 

Do you or do you not want to completely abolish and have an all out ban on abortion and certain forms of birth control?

Yes or no?

 

By blaming the so called "pro-aborts" for wanting to "tie the hands of women" are you not simply seeking validation for a stance?